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never enuff 06-17-2008 09:22 PM

Damn Jason,
Just run your boat in smooth water next time------:party-smiley-004:
Jay

JasonSmith 06-17-2008 09:29 PM


Originally Posted by never enuff (Post 2593242)
Damn Jason,
Just run your boat in smooth water next time------:party-smiley-004:
Jay

Exactally what I was thinking!
How do you measure your d!ck is irrelevant as long as you look down & say "that is big" & the girls agree.... it is big.
So, measured from the bottom to the top or the middle to the top, big is big.:drink::drink:

onesickpantera 06-18-2008 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by socalstone (Post 2592980)
Not so young grasshopper.... Amplitude and wave height are one in the same- measured from baseline/waterline to crest. That's not just surfsmack.... it's science!

Well, the United States Army Corps of Engineers' Coastal and Hydraulics Laboratory, who publishes the Coastal Engineering Manual, disagrees with you. Waveheight is measured crest to trough.

Dock Holiday 06-18-2008 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 2593569)
Well, the United States Army Corps of Engineers' Coastal and Hydraulics Laboratory, who publishes the Coastal Engineering Manual, disagrees with you. Waveheight is measured crest to trough.

Originally Posted by socalstone
Ocean waves are measured from Sea level-to wave crest...
so 4' wave gives you 4' of crest and 4' of trough- this equals 8' of wave "face"

Looking at what he said and your chart to me they are the same thing.

Using the still water line add the trough and the crest and you have the wave height.

Trough + Crest = Wave Height

AIR TIME 06-18-2008 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 2593569)
Well, the United States Army Corps of Engineers' Coastal and Hydraulics Laboratory, who publishes the Coastal Engineering Manual, disagrees with you. Waveheight is measured crest to trough.

thats what I use:D but a lot of times out here there is no still water line just troughs and tops:eek: and there steep in BUZZARDS BAY CAPE COD almost every afternoon when blowing out of the SW. and by NEWPORT. Thats why theres so many blow boats in those two areas:rolleyes::grinser010:

socalstone 06-18-2008 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by onesickpantera (Post 2593569)
Well, the United States Army Corps of Engineers' Coastal and Hydraulics Laboratory, who publishes the Coastal Engineering Manual, disagrees with you. Waveheight is measured crest to trough.

Good for them. but is still wrong to me. I can dig up a hundred legitimate sources that measure from sea level to crest for wave height, including my old school books from Oceanography courses at U of MD, but I think I'm burned out on this topic!

I was just trying to help JS justify what he thought he was running in cuz there were a dozen people calling BS!

You measure crest to trough... more power to you. If JS thinks he was running 90+ in 4' seas... More power to him. More power to you both! ...Whatever the numbers are, I'll know to divide by two.

enjoy.... I'm going to go smoke some weed!

AIR TIME 06-18-2008 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2591726)
2002 Baja 36 Outlaw
500 EFI engines with Merlin Heads and 741 Crane cam
with ECM reprogram = 598 HP at 5400 RPM

Here is exactly what I just copied off my last computer scan from last year. This report is huge but if you email me I can sent it to you so you will see first hand.

Idle = 2.36 GPH
1600 RPM = 6.56 GPH
2150 RPM = 10.48 GPH
3200 RPM = 18.92 GPH
3500 RPM = 19.56 GPH
3800 RPM = 20.62 GPH
4000 RPM = 22.06 GPH
4200 RPM = 27.31 GPH
4500 RPM = 31.48 GPH
4800 RPM = 34.35 GPH
5000 RPM = 35.76 GPH
5200 RPM = 38.04 GPH
5299 RPM = 38.37 GPH
5400 RPM = 40.75 GPH

Note what happens over 4000 RPM.

I hope this helps you out and answers your question.

Remember this is per engine so on a twin it is times two.

Cruise my boat at 3800 RPM and you are burning 42 gallons per hour.

Thanks Doc SO CARBS ARE MORE I think I am at 50 at 5000 to 6000rpm:D with the single I wish I could add 4ft to mine.

AIR TIME 06-18-2008 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by GoodTymn (Post 2592811)
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wonder what he measures this wave to be ?

that wave to me looks like a 6 footer

onesickpantera 06-18-2008 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by socalstone (Post 2594428)
Good for them. but is still wrong to me. I can dig up a hundred legitimate sources that measure from sea level to crest for wave height, including my old school books from Oceanography courses at U of MD, but I think I'm burned out on this topic!

I was just trying to help JS justify what he thought he was running in cuz there were a dozen people calling BS!

You measure crest to trough... more power to you. If JS thinks he was running 90+ in 4' seas... More power to him. More power to you both! ...Whatever the numbers are, I'll know to divide by two.

enjoy.... I'm going to go smoke some weed!


There's people calling BS because it's tough to run that fast in 4 footers. But I have been out in those "just right" waves before when you can run on top of them. From his posts I believe Jason is a straight shooter and he was running hard in some big water.

Everytime there is a thread like this there is that one person says a 4' wave is actually a 2' wave, a 6' wave is actually a 3' wave, etc. If you think the Coastal Engineering Manual is wrong...more power to you. :D

ROB FREEMAN 06-18-2008 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by Dock Holiday (Post 2587029)
??????

Are we not talking here about sea conditions?

There is no such thing as rollers in a lake. There is wake and slop but not rollers.

I assumed when he said 4 foot rollers he ran the boat in the ocean.

The wind to make a four foot wake in a lake would be caused by a tornado and you could not boat.

I'm not trying to be difficult but I assumed we were talking sea conditions here.

thers deffinately lakes that produce 4 foot rollers , lk winnabago in wi , petenwell flowage also will produice a 4 foot rollers theese are just two examples in wi


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