36 or 35 OL
 

If money was no object, but it is, witch would you buy if looking for that size boat? Is the new 35 that much better of a boat but a foot smaller? I didn't want to go as small as a 36 but moneys tight and therers some great deals on the 35's.

I'm confused. Is money no object or is it? If not, I would buy a new 35PR with 700/NXT set up, like the green one that was in Powerboat a few issues back. What a beautiful boat that was. Actually, if money was no object I'd buy a new TS/TG but that's a different argument! :eek: :D

I'll be upgrading to a 35-38 boat within the next couple years (maybe sooner) and will definately be looking at 36 Outlaws. My buddy just sold one and I had drive/ride time in that boat. It did everything I would need from that size boat and would have bought it off him if it hadn't sold so quickly (in one week!). There are some good deals on 36's and although I have no experience with the new 35's I just can't see spending that much more for a new boat.

I would buy a 35, hands down. IF Reggie works his magic the 35 it will be a very formidable machine.
My next Baja (if that time ever comes) will be a 35 with 700's. The boat would be really fast with a full stagger setup!

While both are great boats, the 35 will perform better with same power. The 35 is just a great design, and yes with the Fountain team on it, I am expecting some performance gains

WILL:ernaehrung004:

Glad to hear some respect for the 35 :drink:
I have 496ho's.
Times are tuff. One day mine may be for sale. Trying to hold on as long as I can.

Ride is great. Never rode in a 36OL so cant give a direct comparision. I boated in the gulf waters and now in the Atlantic.
Just wish I had some 525's for some 80 mph runs.
On the perfect day I have seen 75 on GPS. usually 72.

Really, if I was going to have my pick, I'd take a 33. I think they ride great & they are typically faster across the board.

If the 30 is not too small, its a good all around boat for the money with HO's and upper 70's all day long. If I had the money, I'd like a 35, but then it has to have 525's minimum. I don't have that money so don't have that problem......

35Ft if I had to suggest one...but I would go with a 32 Sunsation if your going to spend that kind of money! Better bang for your buck..

I love the 32 Sun,,, BUT it is a very small 32 footer,,,,if he is considering a 35-36 BAJA he will not be happy in 32 Sunsation

I guess what I was saying, money no object in the Baja price range. most of you would go for the 35 but why? You could poss. put 700's in a 36,wouldn't that be fast? Its always the same answer for some people. Remember, theres ALWAYS gonna be some one faster!!!Some one stated the 35 hull is better, most things with time and research will get better than the old style. So a better hull, what about cockpit and cabin? Do you lose some space in the 35 over the bigger 36? There are soime great deals on 36's now so I'm just trying to get some good answers from the people that would know best.

There were several improvements made in the 35 which I really like including more space in the engine compartment and the shifters relocated on the left side of the helm. It is also a little more areodynamic then the 36.

The 35 with the same power will run a few MPH faster then the 36.

Having ridden in two 35's and driven one they do not have the ride quality of the 36 in my opinion but they do ride very well considered to other boats I have been on in the same size range.

I personally think the cuddy is nicer and larger in the 36 plus the McLeod interior was standard on the 36 and only an option on the 35.

My 36 is getting a complete face lift and Kevin Brown at Lakeway Boat Repair that has done some fiberglass work which includes removing the docking lights and gel coating the bilge told me that my boat is rock solid. It is a 2002 model with 428 hours! I personally like the old school stringer construction over the liner construction.

Try them both out and find the boat and the deal that best meets your needs. I'm sure you will be happy with either one.

Good luck

No baja.....get a formula or a donzi....or a 38 lightning.

thanks Dock Holiday!! Thats what I was looking for. As for you Beaker, I will test drive as many as I can to find the one I like. You better keep your little 27 lake boat so you can skip around the ponds there in Mossouri! !LOL HA HA

You are right in that it takes a 38 Fountain to have the rough water capability and ride that you will get in the 35 or 36 Baja.

Formula = VERY Dated

Donzi = NICE

I agree,,,, having been on both,,,,, Ill keep my 36 !!!!

Glad I could help.

Good luck shopping and keep us posted on your decision.

Agreed on all 3 counts. Adding an extra very to very dated.

Dock, what's with the new avatar.... Did you decide to roll with the big motors?

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35Ft if I had to suggest one...but I would go with a 32 Sunsation if your going to spend that kind of money! Better bang for your buck..

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I would somewhat disagree with this statement. Not because I favor one brand over another, but because the Dom is not a comparible boat to the others.

If you are going to compare the Sun and the Baja, you really should compare the 32 Dom with a 30 Outlaw.

32 Dominator
Length 32" with swim platform
Beam 8'
Weight 6500 lb (dry) (with bbc)

30 Outlaw
Length 31' 9" with swim platform
Beam 8' 6"
Weight 7200 lb (dry) (with bbc)

I haven't had the pleasure of driving/riding a Dom, but I have a good bit of experience with the Baja. The Dom is a great looking boat, as is the Baja, but side by side, even the 30 Baja LOOKS larger than a 32 Dom.
I've had my 33 Outlaw next to 32 Dominators, and the Sunny looks positively small compared to the B.
In no way am I knocking the Sunsation. They are a great looking, good performing boat.
Let's say you took the Dom's steps and put them on a Baja 30 hull (maybe Reg will do that). If the steps gained you 7-8mph, wouldn't the performance of the Baja be real close to the Sun??
So how would a 32 Dom be more bang for the buck than a 35/36 Baja????????????

Doesn't the 35 have better (much less) space in the cockpit between the front bolsters and the rear bench? If I have my boats straight, that was a big improvement.

You know after second thought and after reading others posts...i realized that my first take on the question was wrong as well as my answer! If i can reevaluate..the 36Ft Baja is an outstanding boat like Dock has stated...The 35Ft has been tweaked a little more and their have been improvements which I feel put it ahead of the 36Ft...If your looking for a "big"boat I'd go with the 35Ft ..40Ft Baja's are nice but Heavy! If your looking for a boat built well with great customer service Baja is a good choice...All I meant by the Sunsation jab was take a look around...I'm looking at an Outerlimits SV40 right now...I just need more speed then I'm getting.

It's personal choice..my advice would be to test drive as many as you can..if you need to..come on down to Ontario and you can take my 35 out for a spin...

Doug

They gave you more engine compartment room with the 35 over the 36 which did reduce the cockpit space but you can still do the four bolster setup in the 35.

Doug,

That is haulin butt on a sea doo!:evilb:

Dock

Sunsation builds a very nice boat. They seem to have their act together and have some good ideas. I know three folks with them that really like the product but again it is a matter of personal choice.

To me they are SMALL and use the same technique that Fountain does to go fast. Nothing wrong with that but you have to ask yourself if speed or ride and room are what you need in a boat.

The one thing that I do not care for on Sunsation is the huge clutter of gauges spread out everywhere across the front of the boat. It makes my eyes cross trying to figure it out.

I just think it is PRETTY!

Jason hasn't proven to me that he runs 90 MPH yet and he cannot prove that I don't!:evilb::food-smiley-007:

I like the new 32ss Sunsations but size does matter. I had my 25 Oulaw next to a 25 Sunsation and mine looked huge next to it

that would be sweet Cauzmik!!! Dont think I'll make the trip this year though. I have a seven week baby boy that I spend most of my time with now, including my wife too. Thanks for the offer.Might I say this was a pretty good post from everone.

Thanks Dock! Brand new as of this past season...I went out to lake of the isle on the st. Lawrence and gunned her...had to crouch down as best I could but she maxed out at 77..Flat water and about 29C outside. Great ride..wouldn't want to fall off at that speed:evilb:

Doug

Hum you ain't from around here are you?:rolleyes:

I agree that I would NOT want to fall off at those speeds either! We rented a couple down at the coast this summer and it had been about ten years since I had been on one and it was really weird getting the hang of it. The ones we rented topped out at 45 MPH and they felt like you were flying. I cannot imagine doing 77!:eek:

Cant imagine falling off at that speed. One time I when I had my little Barracuda I was whipping it around and actually did a complete flip off the thing and drank about a gallon of Lake Erie on the way down/up! :eek::drink:

Sorry...I better change that C to a F for the winter months...since I'll be in Destin.

you wouldn't want to go much more than 77..trust me...That's faster than my old 26ft Chap with 496HO:evilb:

I think it was more the "perfect day" ...smooth water... great weather..low fuel and I hadn't eaten since breakfast...haha

I keep hearing this, can someone give a good explanation regarding the difference?

Let me start this off by saying that I have not been a huge Baja fan or a Baja hater either. I have not been in a 35 OL but I have been in a 36 and I have to say that the 36 is an excellent boat! I would highly recommend one to anybody who asked, handles the big water of Lake Michigan excellent. Lets just say the haters have been misinformed!

my .02

only wood on the 35 is at the transom,,,,some of the formulas are like that too