Yea I am...I'm hoping he can pick me up a few MPH as well as improve the ride. I also have a few gel issues to fix and no better time than when it's there.

The 03 29OL is running 28p Bravo's and can only spin them 4600rpms and when he trims up the boat is really squirrelly...

He is very good, he also knows Baja very well too, never heard a bad thing and he did great work on my nightmare!!

Irish- Are they labbed 28's. I was running 26's on my 29ol. I wanted to try some labbed 28's. I was hitting 5-51k with my 26's.

I was looking to get a few more mph and keep the r's up with hte labbed 28. Sold the boat before I was able to test. I would trim the heck out of my 29 as well for max speed.

Thanks for the info. Yeah, mine does free up as I get upwards towards 60ish but I would like to have more stable driving throughout the range of speed. So, I am sure I can get a good steer towards a decent prop. I think I have read that there is a prop specialist that frequents this forum. Any help appreciated.

Dave, I took a couple of pics. The hook dosen't look as big as in person but you get the idea. Mine also doesn't go all the way to the bottom of the V. Just right in front of the tabs.

You guys are wasting money taking that hook out. I do not believe it will make the difference you think it will. I do think that at best it will give you 1 mph up top, if it does that.
The best thing to do is run with your tabs in the water. I run with mine a touch negative along with the drives in neutral trim position for 99% of my cruising.
When it gets rough, drop the drives & when it gets really rough kick in some more tab. These hulls need negative tab input!
You can adjust the ride of the boat by moving more weight forward. especially in a 302. They are ass heavy to begin with & that is what makes them ride nose high. They are not balanced correctly.
By balancing the boat correctly you will run faster, more comfortable & more level.
For guys like Indy & myself, taking that hook out will do nothing. Our boats at speed run with that portion of the bottom out of the water, for the most part.
Don't believe me? Here is my boat at 90+ at the LOTO Shootout this past week & another from Lake Perry 2 years ago . Flat & fast.

Thats what I keep telling people. As your boat increases in speed the hooks (wedges) get out of the water and have not effect. My boat with a single free's up at about 62. You may have to get a boat with twins much faster. Spend your money on HP and the setup.

Here's mine running at Cumberland last summer and Lake St.Clair...Runs flat, but porpoises like a MO FO! I do run slight negative trim basically where the tab touches a level on the bottom of the boat and the trim about 3-4 clicks up...Now maybe putting boxes and shorties will help I don't know..I'm going to go for it and see where it takes me..

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...csLoran011.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...csLoran014.jpg

If it porposises, trim the drives down. My 29 never has taken much trim to get it running fast.
From the looks of the pictures, you have the drives trimmed up a good ways, but it is hard to tell without driving it.

Well come on down to Cumberland on the 11th and you can drive it all you want...I'll have plenty of the Captain and Jager...

Well, if I could make it, I would. I'm gonna have to take a pass on this time.

It's cool bro there is next year. Or if you get up to MI in the winter look me up.

Come on. You can drive my boat even though it will be a lot to get used to going that slow. Just fly in.

I'll be in Ann Arbor the 8th & 9th in stupid meetings.

Perfect! Just fly in for the weekend.

You can ride down with me I'll be rolling through Ann Arbor 8am on the 9th...

Well to get this thread back on track. Upon checking my bottom I've found a hook all the way down on the back by the transom roughly 1/8-1/4" then about 6' up there's a rocker about 1/2" the bunks are getting in my way due to I can't get it off the trailer, but I'm guessing this is a "BIG" reason I'm getting a porpoise at speed. As I've got so much going on this fall and winter with other projects I'm looking at spring to get this taken care of. I just can't believe a boat would get shipped out like that from the factory. No wonder I hear so many stories of boats picking up 5mph from "blueprinting" the bottom. I understand Baja made these boats so basically everyone could drive them, but come on....Deep X dimensions and irregular bottoms I'd think it would be safer to have a boat that didn't porpoise at 70mph than one that went 75mph. JMO though.

I'll bring this back to the top to avoid hijacking the Poker Run boat thread...

Well I'm bring this back up as I'm taking my boat down to LakeAway Fiberglass in the next couple weeks to have some glass repairs done and he's going to jack my boat up off the trailer and inspect the bottom to see what is causing the porpoise and possible other issues scrubbing speed. I'll update after it goes there.

Irish,

Good luck. All 302s I've been in porpoised. Mostly at a lower RPM cruising speed. Mine would flatten out at 3800+

Mine is definately different than most 302's it used to porpoise at about 50mph now it does it around 35-40. Extension boxes and shorties along with added HP definately changed the way it handles and rides. Upon talking with Kevin at LakeAway which he used to work at Baja seems to think it's a normal problem with Baja's that theres a rocker in the hull. I'll find out if he can't find anything then I'll just drive it above 50mph all the time.

Well he definately found something, so we'll see how it handles now.

Took long enough.

I actually didn't drop it off til end of April and forgot about this thread.

We have been waiting patiently since 2009 to hear the outcome.

I didn't realize how old this thread was. I've done alot of changes since I started this. I definately had bottom issues. It's not the ones outside the strakes infront of the tabs. It's a hook on the running surface.

Kevin assured me this would improve handling and eliminate the porpoise.

sounds exciting! Hope it runs good for you

Getting it all dialed in for you.

I think Indy whsl just had the hook taken out of his 29 outlaw, not sure if it was everything he thought it would be. He didn't seem to excited about it.

I wish you lots of luck. I think its a weight issue more than a hook problem.

I'm not going to speak for Mike or put words in his mouth, but I think he would have rather not done what he did, or at least not to the extent it was done.
I'm not 100% sure, but that is the way I interpreted he & I's conversation on the phone the other day.
I think it gave him more than he was bargaining for, but more of a concern to him, I feel is he has to start over like it was a brand new to him boat in terms of driveability and learning curve.
It is going to take some time to get figured out what the boat wants now for wheels and how he is going to treat his trim settings.
I wish him and all you guys who take the hook out of the Bajas the best of luck.
I still feel it is there for a reason and isn't a factor at speed, but I'm retired from that game now so I really don't care what it does as long as you guys are having fun doing it. :drink::drink:

Weight distribution and over-trimming are my observations too.
Not picking on Indy, but look at the difference in attitude of my 29 vs. his.
Mike:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvYc65RNyWw

Me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBlmw...eature=related

There is the issue with the water condition, but I think it's a fair comparison for the most part.
Mike is the only one who can say how the water was for his run.

I don't. I'm not talking about hook outside the strakes. I'm talking about a rocker on the running surface. From engine bulkhead to the transom 1/2" rocker in the running surface is like dragging a 3' wide trim tab while at WOT.

I know what Indy did I pretty much talk to him daily and I'm not touching that area of my bottom. The guy doing my boat has lots of experience with race boats and Baja's Those little hooks in the front of my Kplanes aren't affecting it with 380 Kplanes they're not even in hard water on plane.

Here is a video of it last summer running 80.999999999

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rF3PnhJj1bE&feature=mh_lolz&list=LLM662Dnf vQ4M[/YOUTUBE]

your right those hooks help you get up on plane with stock power. but you have a bad area under the boat. I now when I put the shortie on my 24ol my boat ran much better. I am having issues with putting my new gas tank in my saber 28 its designed to fit behind the back seat, they must of lowered it in before the deck was installed. I had to modifed it for the blower:evilb:. so now ITS GOING BACK TO THE TANK PLACE A SECOND TIME:lolhit:. but today Iam mocking up a wood one to see what little trimming I need to do. its only 88gals, I tried to add 12 to the stock tank but its not fitting so Iwill loose 2 to 3 gals, then in the fall after I use this thing add a second tankunder the seat. good luck these baja's can fly with a lil work.