Baja 29 single 575
 

Hi. I´m new on this site and from Sweden so pardon me for my bad english.

I´m looking for a Baja 29 with single engine and I just found out that they also come with 575 SCi as an option. I want one of these and wondering if anyone knows where to look?


Regards /Teo

Teo,

I have not heard of one with the 575SCI to date but that does not mean they are not out there. I know there are several 29 singles at Lake of the Ozarks in Missouri USA. Why not buy one with Twins?

I found these where it says the 575 is an option.

http://www.bajamarine.com/archive/2002/29_outlaw.pdf

I want the single for lots of reasons. We have some ruff reas here outside Stockholm and I want the propp as far down as possible so I can stear while the boat makes smaller jumps. With twins the engines is higher up becaus of the v-shape, one engine drinks less fuel and our gass is like three times more expensive than in US:angry-smiley-055:
And the boats I´ve tryed with twins has tended to "snake" their way through some of the ruff reas as the propps not always are in water at the same time.

Where can I look for boats at Lake of the Ozarks? Is there any sale sites?


Sorry bout the language.

The link you posted is just for options. I've not heard of one with a 575sci either. I'm guessing dye to cost one wasn't built. You might be able to find one with a 500efi in it..

I dont know if any site that is specificly for Lake of the Ozarks (LOTO), I just know that lake has some of the single engine 29's. There is a guy at LOTO that is looking at getting rid of his but i dont know what power he has in the boat. Or if it is for sale. I let him know your looking he may look you up. if you want to PM me your email I can forward it to him. You could always change the power.

Thats sad. Would have been a nice set up I think. + a blower of course.

I got one link from NoWake200 that seems right. It had like 8 29´s and all ware singles but onley 454 or 496. It may come in some more during this fall.

Thanks for the tip. You got a pm.

Teo,

Since we are both Europeans, I would suggest you to do the following (at least that is what I am planning to do):

1. Find a 29 OL with single engine installation (Preferably with the 496, or the 496HO)

2. Either in the States or in Europe, arrange to install one of the Raylar kits. I would vote for the 103 Kit.

This will increase the output power of the engine to about 525 HP which I think is ok for this size of boat.

I know that you would prefer even higher power, and the 496 can achieve power up to 600 or maybe even a bit more. Personally I would not like to "push" the engine in so high output, plus this would require a more "significant" modification of the engine.

I am not familiar if the same "push up" in power can be achieved with the 454. I think that the 502 can be pushed up a bit more easier than the 454, but I am sure some of the people here can help you about it.

Now, in the states there are many good engine shops to carry out this mod of the engine. In Europe, one I know is the following in Germany: http://www.496power.de/

Good luck with your project.

Thank you.

I have the same feeling ´bout pushing the engine too much. Thats why I want a large enginge that already have some power to start with.

Teo

There was a single 29 Outlaw around here that had a 500 EFI with a procharger on it.

The boat ran in the mid 60's.

I will also say in my opinion they ride better with the single as they are better balanced.

There is a 2003 on our lake with 6.2's. It runs upper 60's all day and probably uses less fuel then a single with 500-600 hp would. Not to mention the drive issues a single would have with that kind of power. If it were me I'd take the 6.2's. You simple can't beat the turn-key performance and fuel economy. Not to mention probably many more to choose from. Just my 2cents. Best of luck in your quest.

If you're worried about fuel consumtion
575's are not the answer:eek:

If fuel efficiency is important, go
with small twins

Bring that to Me! 500 EFI with a procharger seems perfect!

I´ts not just ekonomy, I want one propp in the middle way down rather than two high upp on each side. The baltic sea is shallow, with less salty water than the oceans. That makes the waves short and steep and wih twins you have to use the throttle more and it weigh more.

Ok I might be wrong but I felt that an engine that big would have to work less att cruise. The 500EFI sounds like an option.

You can build way more power with a custom built engine. Find a boat with a single engine and have it built to your specs. How are you planning on getting it home? Shipping from the US to Europe would cost a fortune.

It depends. I sold my 25 OL to a guy in germany, he was quoted 10k but got is shipped for less than 5 from what he said. The boat sat at the dock for a little while till there was a cancelation. Remember they dont have alot of big block boats over there. I doubt he is driving it.:lolhit:

There are three major "financial" problems for importing boats from the States.

1. The import taxation (usually in the range of 16% to 20% VAT in most of the European Union countries)
2. The CE certificate issuance
3. The transportation cost

The transportation arrangement is not such a big issue, and can be arranged through various dealers which exist in both sides of the Atlantic. Those dealers also arrange for the CE certificate (with an extra cost of about 2000 to 3000 EUR).

Another problem is the survey which need to be carried out prior the purchase of the boat. Of course you will need an experience marine surveyor to carry such a task, however, I always have the feeling that as a new owner, is good to have a direct look of your new "toy" prior to make the deal. Particularly if you "know" the subject a bit.

In any case, depending the size of the boat, and the "relation" which someone can have with the importers, the cost can vary from 5000 EUR up to 20000 EUR.

But I think it worth it.........considering the prices here, but also the very limited choice of powerboats.

I´ve contacted a company that takes care of all issues. They recently
imported a Fountain for a pall of mine and it was´nt that expensive.

Here it´s like 20 cool boats for sale total and just a few of them are Bajas and none of them are close to what I want. + They are all criminally expensive.

I know the taxes on cars and bikes are around what you said but it´s lower on boats.

Thank you all for the concern anyway :ernaehrung004:

If you want to skip the Baja idea, I have a 2001 Powerquest 280 silencer with a 496HO and a procharger that runs 75mph, turn key and go and only has about 130 hours. I think the PQ is a great all around boat but I am toying the idea of moving into something like a 33 OL.

My pleasure Teo. :drink:

Can you please give me more details about the company and the prices? As I said, I am planning to follow the same path as you in the future, so the more I know the better. I would suggest the info in PM is better.

I have a '97 29 Outlaw with a single HP500 carb motor that will be up for sale in the very near future. The boat has 312 original hours with 11 hours on a complete top to bottom rebuild of the motor. New cockpit upholstery and big stereo installed April '08. Tandem axle Haul Rite trailer with new tires, wheels, bearings and seals this year. I will post some pics tonight. The boat is at the fiberglass shop right now having some minor nicks and scratches touched up and then will be on the market. Let me know if your interested, I am located in Kansas City, MO.

NO WAY to get a LEGAL REAL CE Certification on any boat with
500 EFI, 525 EFI, 575 SCI

There are always some ways to get the boat into the country but maybe you never get a registration in Sweden.

I would buy a boat with a 496 and swap engine AFTER registration

Any boats imported after 2006 to Europe needs a CE certified engine .

Only HP engines with CE are 600 SCI and 662 SCI from Mercury Racing and Ilmors 650 and 725 Gen iV

Of course I´m interested. It would be nice to see some pics.

/Teo

If i could find a nice one with a 496 in it then I´m good but i onley found 29´s with smaller ones.


The CE Certification is just for insurance rignt? If so that is not so important. Its pritty liberal to own a boat i sweden. Expensive due to de gas price but liberal.

Btw, how do you know all this? I´m pritty impressed

/Teo

hey was it white 05 25ol with red yellow and black and have a 525 in it with f 1 or something on the side????

there was a guy from germany that bought a 25ol with a 525hp in it then after two years bought a 600sc from merc so there are boats with 525s in germany.

I am trying to find out where I saved them. If not I will get some new pics this weekend and get them posted.

That would be great!

525 and 575 and ALL other engines were allowed to bring into the EU before 2006 :angry-smiley-038:

They changed the law - the new emmission law says that all boats that now get first time into the EU need a CE certified engine package - In several countries this will be checked during or after custom clearing and you will not receive a licence for a non CE certified Boat - engine package

Its not just a insurance question - there already have been several boats confiscated because of that. In Finnland they confiscated a brand new Fountain during the Helsinki boat show - the boat had no CE papers
In Germany a new boat was confiscated until the owner purchased a ne CE certifioed engine.

Of course there are always some ways to pass the controls , like there are always ways for some people to smuggle narcotics or weaposns, but it is still illeagal

Also without REAL CE papers resale value will be significent lower due to fact that controls are growing each year. :bigbird:

wow he put the 600 mrec in 07 or 08 maybe thats why he is not posting anymore:eek: