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fctyson0 04-02-2011 07:59 AM

272 vs outlaw question
 
hello everyone i have been looking for a good used boat for some time and due to the need for wind protection my choices have been limited to boats with windshields.for those of you guys that have riden in both a 272 and a 25 outlaw how much more wind protection do you get from the 272 when seated with stand up bolsteres?i realy like the look of the outlawes but just not sure if its going to work with our cold weather?

thanks for advise

obnoxus 04-02-2011 08:11 AM

Alot to me.

We had a 272 for 7 years,,,,, the other bonus to the windshield is we were able to put up the bimini and drive home if we ever got caught in the rain.

I had a rear panel made for mine so we were totally enclosed

rumrunner29 04-02-2011 08:22 AM

There is a noticeable difference, IF you drive the 272 sitting down and looking through the windshield, I don't. I drive my buddy's 272 like my outlaw, standing up looking over the windshield, so there is little difference to me. The 272 is a great boat, easy and fun to drive, however I like the ride and look of outlaws better. I am a little biased though!! My buddy's 272 with a 502 mag is just a tick slower than my 29 outlaw.
Hope this helps.

pacalim1965@yaho 04-02-2011 08:40 AM

I have had 3 272's, Two has had windshields. My Baja Boss that i own now has a low profile fairing that wraps around instead of a glass windshield. I won't have another boat with a windshield, its hard to see through them when setting down. And i find myself standing all day long looking over it...However i live in florida. warm most of the time.. The fairing deflects the wind while setting and you can look over it easily..

Nightlife1970 04-03-2011 12:52 PM

I have not been in a 272 at speed. I have owned a 260 and now own a 280 both with windshields. I have driven alot of boats that just had farings or Outlaws.

With my 260 I had to sit, no drop downs, and I hated it. I just don't like sitting when I drive. With my 280 I can stand, but I can position myself where I am looking over the windshield, but get no wind in the face. So I really like driving my boat.

So driving an OL is ok, but I would rather have goggles when doing it. If it is a cold thing, there is no replacing a windshield.

fctyson0 04-03-2011 02:49 PM

thanks guys,the main thing with the windshield is the wife and the ability to put up full camper canvas in case of bad weather.

indywhsle 04-05-2011 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by fctyson0 (Post 3367328)
thanks guys,the main thing with the windshield is the wife and the ability to put up full camper canvas in case of bad weather.

I sold the boat that is referred to in post #4. It has a full enclosure with having a wind screen. Never used it so Patrick may be able to tell you more about it.

eddie 04-05-2011 10:45 AM

My wife goes into the cuddy during bad weather along with anyone else left in the boat. You will get stuck driving. Do the Outlaw with some clear glasses so you can see. I always stand when driving and don't care for the look of the windshield. Loved our 25 Outlaw and they are faster than a 272 too.

indywhsle 04-05-2011 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by eddie (Post 3368917)
Loved our 25 Outlaw and they are faster than a 272 too.

I disagree. At least with the 272 I had. The 272's have a lot more room in the cockpit area than the 25ol and the one I sold is now running 93 mph on gps.

kennyo 04-05-2011 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by indywhsle (Post 3368948)
I disagree. At least with the 272 I had. The 272's have a lot more room in the cockpit area than the 25ol and the one I sold is now running 93 mph on gps.

+1

will22 04-05-2011 01:29 PM

272's are larger in the cockpit area?? really? i have a 24OL and considering its roughly a foot shorter than the 272 tied up side by side what are you considering a "much larger cockpit"...i am shooting from the hip but willing to bet/guess there isnt 6" of difference in the cockpit sizes. the Cuddy - yes theres a noticable difference there.

speedwise - very similar between the two. ive outrun 272's and ive been outrun by them as well with identical power pkgs, in my case 502 mags.

it basically boils down to what look you like - both killer rides for the $$

kragar 04-06-2011 09:19 AM

I believe the 272s are larger in the cockpit and smaller in the cuddy and sunpad. I have both a Hammer and a 25OL. The 25Ol has more than enough wind protection. No need for sunglasses running full throtle and sitting down. The wind screen deflects wind real well. I have the poker run seating in my 25OL and there is no room to stand behind the bolsters. I, however, have plently of room while driving.

kennyo 04-06-2011 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by will22 (Post 3369061)
272's are larger in the cockpit area?? really? i have a 24OL and considering its roughly a foot shorter than the 272 tied up side by side what are you considering a "much larger cockpit"...i am shooting from the hip but willing to bet/guess there isnt 6" of difference in the cockpit sizes. the Cuddy - yes theres a noticable difference there.

speedwise - very similar between the two. ive outrun 272's and ive been outrun by them as well with identical power pkgs, in my case 502 mags.

it basically boils down to what look you like - both killer rides for the $$

You know for a fact 6inches is a world of difference......ask any woman!

indywhsle 04-06-2011 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by will22 (Post 3369061)
272's are larger in the cockpit area?? really? i have a 24OL and considering its roughly a foot shorter than the 272 tied up side by side what are you considering a "much larger cockpit"...i am shooting from the hip but willing to bet/guess there isnt 6" of difference in the cockpit sizes. the Cuddy - yes theres a noticable difference there.

speedwise - very similar between the two. ive outrun 272's and ive been outrun by them as well with identical power pkgs, in my case 502 mags.

it basically boils down to what look you like - both killer rides for the $$

I never measured the difference but I now have a 29 ol and the cockpit area in the 272 I had seems to be the same that I now have in the 29. The main difference from the 25 ol and the 272 is the room behind the front bolsters to the rear bench.

will22 04-06-2011 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by kennyo (Post 3369933)
You know for a fact 6inches is a world of difference......ask any woman!

leave it to you to go there...lol. good one

risky 04-07-2011 05:46 AM

272 Question
 
I had an outlaw but never been on a 272, The entrance to the outlaw cabin is tight, I always thought the 272 was bigger and had a larger entrance to cabin. I would say the 272 is a better boat for the family by the way it looks.

pacalim1965@yaho 04-07-2011 05:11 PM

The 272 is a great all around boat. I just purchased a 29 fountain fever and i like my baja better and i feel it has more room than the 29.

fctyson0 04-07-2011 06:13 PM


Originally Posted by pacalim1965@yaho (Post 3371169)
The 272 is a great all around boat. I just purchased a 29 fountain fever and i like my baja better and i feel it has more room than the 29.

could you tell more about the 2 boats and what you dont like?i too have been looking at the fountains

Baja_342 04-08-2011 07:53 AM

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I had a 1998 29' Fever (single 500). Personally I prefer the Fountain over the 272 or 25OL. But I prefer the 29OL or 302 over the 29 Fountain. I don't want to start a beak debate, but it's true...a 29 Fountain is a 27 anything else. I went from the Fountain to a 302. It felt like going from an apartment to a mansion. Of course I added an engine and slowed down 10 MPH though. But that's when I started having kids and the Baja was just a lot more practical.

There were a few things that bugged me about the Fountain. Getting up on the deck was down right dangerous. I hated the three piece cabin door. 29' single is tough in tight places with wind and current.

I did like the left handed throttle.

risky 04-08-2011 11:13 AM

I like the look of the fountain but..
 
They are a little tight on space, the comment about getting on the deck is funny because that is what bugged me about my Active thunder.

pacalim1965@yaho 04-08-2011 05:24 PM

I own a 29' Fountain and a 27 Baja Boss. Both over 700 hp. I find that the Baja is easier to get around on, More space in side and out. The Baja has steps to the deck and alot easier to see over the wind screen. The fountain does not seem to be very modern. Kinda like a 80"s limo, and i personally don't like the left hand throttle. And the elect bolster seats in the fever kinda slopes down. and looses its position, The best feature of the fountain is the handleing and step hull. and a much spacious engine bay for working in. For family outings and shear convenience definitely the Baja .

pacalim1965@yaho 04-08-2011 05:27 PM

Oh and the 3 piece cabin door on the fountain sucks.

Irishtornado 04-08-2011 06:38 PM

Sounds like the 1980's Fountain design isn't making you very happy.


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