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pagerboy 07-06-2011 08:47 AM

help with my 496ho over heating!
 
well here it is. first last week my alarm went off, solid tone! found that my starboard exhaust temp (on port motor) was melted into the maifold! so I replaced the temp sensor! now I get a solid alarm after I take off but it it does weired things. A few times the temp went up past 180, but not all the time. Water coming out is steamy?! I toke off the seapump but its tight and all paddles are intacked no signs of wear? any ideas? some off the old sensor might have droping to the water side of the manifold could it have block somthing? there is steam on both sides tho?

Baja_man 07-06-2011 08:53 AM

How did the sea pump housing look? If there are any groves on the plates it will not work properly. Check the inside of impeller in the housing, that seems to be the first side to not seal. Just at a glance it may look fine but it has to be a very tight seal for it to work properly. Also if just one side does not have water coming out there probably is some blockage and it needs to be back flushed. Don't forget to check the oil cooler and the ends of the heat exchanger.

pagerboy 07-06-2011 08:57 AM

how do you back flush it?

rumrunner29 07-06-2011 09:22 AM

Sounds to me like what's left of your last impeller is still in there. I am.not sure how to flush a 496, but on my 454s, I remove the water line at the discharge side of the pump, remove the lines at the thermostat and also the oil coolers and flush water thru them until all the rubber pieces come out.

pagerboy 07-06-2011 11:09 AM

I have all the lines off and i see no sign of any old or new rubber!

pagerboy 07-06-2011 02:50 PM

well took sea pump all the way a part impeller looks good no signs of any wear, inside housing is good, no groves, however it has groves on the ends in the middle but looks like they were machined in to it?

Baja_man 07-06-2011 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by pagerboy (Post 3446225)
well took sea pump all the way a part impeller looks good no signs of any wear, inside housing is good, no groves, however it has groves on the ends in the middle but looks like they were machined in to it?

It should be smooth, no grooves...you have wear.

rumrunner29 07-06-2011 04:57 PM

The 496 has closed cooling doesn't it? Make sure you have no blockage at the heat exchange, main cooling line from the drive, water intake on the drive and the manifold. I didn't think the pump housing had grooves, I would change it out.The fact that you said earlier that the water temp would spike then come down sounds just like what happened to me when my water pump failed due to blocked cooling line. I had to flush all the hoses and change the impeller again. Hope.this helps, its all I can think to check.

pagerboy 07-06-2011 06:29 PM

both the top and bottom have the exact groves the inside of the housing is a smooth as a babys bottom! i will post a pic tommorow.

Baja_man 07-06-2011 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by pagerboy (Post 3446392)
both the top and bottom have the exact groves the inside of the housing is a smooth as a babys bottom! i will post a pic tommorow.

There should be no grooves what so ever...everything should be smooth....the ends will look like the grooves were machined but there not.....it is suppose to be smooth! The design of the brass sea pump is bad, once sand goes thru it and the temp begins to go up the circulation is down causing this. Just change the pump and don't do any further damge to the engine. Hardin marine makes a stainless replacement that is cheaper than the stock merc pump and is better.

http://www.hardin-marine.com/p-15774...d-502-mag.aspx

pagerboy 07-06-2011 08:47 PM

what about one of these wear plates?

http://metalartetc.com/shop/article_...t.html?pse=apq

flying J 07-06-2011 09:38 PM

If the "walls of the chamber" dont have groves it usually works the ends all get groves in them and yes you can use that plate. Is the damn thing pumping water out the exhaust???.....Pull a hose and start it up that will let you know. Plus I think the alarm is constant when you dont have water PSI

pagerboy 07-06-2011 11:00 PM

yes it is throwing water out the exhaust but it is steamy. dont look like its as much coming out the starboard motor. guess i could switch the pumps and see if it follows?

ZP'd 07-07-2011 08:03 AM

Have you pulled the ends off the heat exchanger and blown out the cooling tubes?

They do get debris in them that will plug up some of the passaages over time.

Baja_man 07-07-2011 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by pagerboy (Post 3446505)
what about one of these wear plates?

http://metalartetc.com/shop/article_...t.html?pse=apq

Yes this will work...haven't heard of anyone using it but it does address the grooves at one end.

Baja_342 07-07-2011 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by Baja_man (Post 3446462)
There should be no grooves what so ever...everything should be smooth....the ends will look like the grooves were machined but there not.....it is suppose to be smooth! The design of the brass sea pump is bad, once sand goes thru it and the temp begins to go up the circulation is down causing this. Just change the pump and don't do any further damge to the engine. Hardin marine makes a stainless replacement that is cheaper than the stock merc pump and is better.

http://www.hardin-marine.com/p-15774...d-502-mag.aspx

At those prices I think I'll just replace the entire pump annually with a $50 Sierra kit. Of course I boat in the Ohio river. Deep water around here and don't have concerns with picking up sand. I only have to dodge dead bodies:)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sierr...ssoriesQ5fGear

Unlimited jd 07-07-2011 08:32 AM

Does it have a freshwater flush kit? Make sure that's closed all the way had this happen the other day

Baja_man 07-07-2011 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by Baja_302 (Post 3446790)
At those prices I think I'll just replace the entire pump annually with a $50 Sierra kit. Of course I boat in the Ohio river. Deep water around here and don't have concerns with picking up sand. I only have to dodge dead bodies:)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sierr...ssoriesQ5fGear

I don't think that kit will work with this application, older style I think?

pagerboy 07-07-2011 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 3446793)
Does it have a freshwater flush kit? Make sure that's closed all the way had this happen the other day

Is the fresh water flush at the top of the engine compartment where you screw the hose straght to the boat? I did use this the day this all started and I ran the boat for about 15 min while it flushed! did that screw it up? are you sposed to run motor while hose is hooked up at that location?

pagerboy 07-07-2011 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Baja_302 (Post 3446790)
At those prices I think I'll just replace the entire pump annually with a $50 Sierra kit. Of course I boat in the Ohio river. Deep water around here and don't have concerns with picking up sand. I only have to dodge dead bodies:)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Sierr...ssoriesQ5fGear

wish that would work but thats not the same pump housing on this one is allmost 500 dollars!

pagerboy 07-08-2011 11:04 AM

I put a new impeller in it gona see if that work short term! will find out this afternoon.


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