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puzzleboy 12-25-2011 09:57 PM

1995 Baja questions
 
My buddy's looking at this boat for sale. I suspect it's a 29', but the ad says it's a 1995 30'.

I'm guessing this is a 1995 Outlaw SST 29', is that correct?

Can anybody tell me much about these models? Good, bad, etc.? My knowledge is pretty much limited to my 272. Curious about the cuddy configuration, etc. Would it have a cookstove or fridge in it? Separate head, or one under the bed?

This one has twin 454s (carbed I'm guessing). There used to be a site where you could download factory brochures from Baja, but I can't seem to find it anymore. Anyone know where these can be had?
Specs would be awesome too, going to look at it Thursday.

Thanks all!


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By puzzleboy at 2011-12-27

Irishtornado 12-25-2011 10:52 PM

They didn't build the 29OL in 1995 first year was 97. Is it a 290 or 320? Only 2 models built in 95 close to 30' the 290 won't have a 24 degree deadrise. Will ride rougher than your 272 which has 24 degree deadrise. That site didn't go back to 95 when it was still up.

Nightlife1970 12-25-2011 11:14 PM

Yeah that is a 290. It is a 21 degree dead rise hull, it will ride better than a 272 just due to length, but not as smooth as a 29OL. It will be faster with the same power as a 29OL. Cuddy layout will be similar to other Baja's.

puzzleboy 12-27-2011 12:29 PM

Picture fixed!

Irishtornado 12-27-2011 03:53 PM


Originally Posted by puzzleboy (Post 3580113)
Picture fixed!

Yea 290 rides rough with the 21 degree deadrise.

puzzleboy 12-27-2011 04:41 PM

Anyone know what kinda speed could be expected from this hull with twin 480 hp (warmed over) 454s? 75 sound reasonable?

Any idea of the weight of this boat? Thanks!

Nightlife1970 12-27-2011 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by puzzleboy (Post 3580298)
Anyone know what kinda speed could be expected from this hull with twin 480 hp (warmed over) 454s? 75 sound reasonable?

Any idea of the weight of this boat? Thanks!


Don't know on weight probably around the 7000 mark. The 290 with 330's was a 70 mph boat.

Baja_342 12-27-2011 08:36 PM

You know where it is in KY? I'd be happy to look at it if it's close.

XT-Innovator 12-27-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightlife1970 (Post 3580333)
Don't know on weight probably around the 7000 mark. The 290 with 330's was a 70 mph boat.

Correct on both points!

I owned one for 3 years until I purchased a new 29 Outlaw in 2000. My good friend still owns a 95' with 330's and runs it on Lake Erie, but it will beat you pretty good. It is really just a 27' hull w/o the molded swim platform included so twin BB power is heavy in the back of that model. My boat had small block 350 Mags/Alphas and ran 65 mph but it was much better balanced, and I had mini K-planes to work with while my buddys 330 boat had single ram Boat Levellers that he did not use. He needs to keep the Bravo drives buried all the time to keep it from porposing out of control in rough water. Even at rest my boat sat 3" higher at the rear when we rafted together. I always seemed to be able to out run him in rough water, and his boat was 5 mph faster.

The 9' beam makes them roomy, and my wife liked the galley cabin better than my Outlaw. For the right price I would own another one, but Lake Erie is better for 24 degree bottoms.

My old 290 is down on the Ohio river now, and it is a good boat for the river, or more protected/less traffic lakes. IMHO

They are fast boats, and turn nice and smooth but need more running surface like large K-planes to keep them under control. Another thing they do really well is around the docks! The short (flat) 21 deg. hull will spin around in its own length with twins. But hey most Fountains are only 22 deg.

XT

Ebay Ed 12-27-2011 10:29 PM

XT is the picture on the right tgi firdays by the causeway to cedar point ??

Ebay Ed 12-27-2011 10:30 PM

XT is the picture on the right tgi fridays by the causeway to cedar point ??

XT-Innovator 12-27-2011 10:37 PM

Brochures
 
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The listed weight is with base power (350 Mag/Alpha) no fuel, water, or gear.

XT-Innovator 12-27-2011 10:42 PM


Originally Posted by Ebay Ed (Post 3580539)
XT is the picture on the right tgi fridays by the causeway to cedar point ??

Yup! I always loved running that boat at full throttle through both right hand turns in the channel going back there.

puzzleboy 12-27-2011 11:07 PM

Thanks a lot everyone, and thanks for the brochure Dave. It's a little hard to read, but it looks like 6410 lbs with 350s.

So there's no swim platform on these boats? Interesting...

Thanks for the offer 342, but it looks like the owner hasn't re-registered it, as it's nowhere near Kentucky! :) Gotta look into that.

XT-Innovator 12-27-2011 11:20 PM

[QUOTE=puzzleboy;3580555]So there's no swim platform on these boats? Interesting...QUOTE]

I ment to say that 29' includes a molded-in 2' swim platform on the older 290. A 29 Outlaw is a true 28'9" hull with a bolt-on swim platform. (longer running surface)

XT

puzzleboy 12-27-2011 11:24 PM

Thanks for the clarification. Is the SST nomenclature legit for a 1995, or is that just a sticker he put on there? And if so, what does it mean exactly, package, etc.?

J

XT-Innovator 12-27-2011 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by puzzleboy (Post 3580560)
Thanks for the clarification. Is the SST nomenclature legit for a 1995, or is that just a sticker he put on there? And if so, what does it mean exactly, package, etc.?

J

Non-legit.....

The SST package was done in 97' on the first 29, & 36 Outlaws we produced.

We asked Doug Smith back then when he created the SST package what it ment! He said it ment nothing, it just sounded cool to him. I think he got it from the SSE Pontiac Bonaville package that came out about that same time??????

XT

puzzleboy 12-28-2011 12:05 AM

Or Supersonic Transport..... lol

Do you recall what was in the package? Just curious.

If my buddy buys this boat, and it needs canvas or vinyl, you'll be getting a call again Dave!

XT-Innovator 12-28-2011 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by XT-Innovator (Post 3580569)
Non-legit.....

The SST package was done in 97' on the first 29, & 36 Outlaws we produced.

Wait, I spoke to soon. The first was the 24ol in 1996 and later on the 32 Outlaw.

500hps 12-28-2011 12:27 PM

my 97 322 with warmed up 500s runs 83.tons of room,include head,cook top.great family boat.may be for sale.

conneroutlaw 12-29-2011 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by puzzleboy (Post 3579169)
My buddy's looking at this boat for sale. I suspect it's a 29', but the ad says it's a 1995 30'.

I'm guessing this is a 1995 Outlaw SST 29', is that correct?

Can anybody tell me much about these models? Good, bad, etc.? My knowledge is pretty much limited to my 272. Curious about the cuddy configuration, etc. Would it have a cookstove or fridge in it? Separate head, or one under the bed?

This one has twin 454s (carbed I'm guessing). There used to be a site where you could download factory brochures from Baja, but I can't seem to find it anymore. Anyone know where these can be had?
Specs would be awesome too, going to look at it Thursday.

Thanks all!


http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6052/baja290.jpg
By puzzleboy at 2011-12-27

Outlaws don't have full windsheilds like this one. I have a 1997 24ft outlaw sst and it looks nothing like yours.

puzzleboy 12-29-2011 08:37 AM

Yep, this is a regular 290 according to the forum...

Knot 4 Me 12-29-2011 08:38 AM

Good looking ride.

Mirage30 12-29-2011 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by 500hps (Post 3580844)
my 97 322 with warmed up 500s runs 83.tons of room,include head,cook top.great family boat.may be for sale.

I cant believe this!
I own a 322 with 454s procharged 2x600HP and it runs 80mls(Gps)?!

puzzleboy 12-29-2011 04:58 PM

Well, went to look at her today, and my buddy bought her! Good deal too. Needs a bigger truck now.... lol Trailer is a Tech Sun.... never heard of them, but looks well built.

Pretty clean condition, needs some small things. It's missing the small fairings/covers that go over the rear air vents, on the black swoosh (see picture 2, circled in red). Anybody know where these can be had? Otherwise going to have to make something up in fibreglass which would be a lot of work. Also needs a bow rail end piece, head door hinge, some decals, trailer spare wheel/tire, stuff like that.

Boat was apparently used on Lake Cumberland - anyone know the boat?

He'd like to redo the gauge panel with bezels or new gauges. Not sure what's available yet. Here's a pic I took today with my phone.

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Baja_342 12-29-2011 05:51 PM

Could be a tough part to find. Pretty sure '95 was the last year for the 290. May need a donor boat to take a mold.

puzzleboy 12-29-2011 07:04 PM

Yep, was thinking that if I could get a hold of two good pieces..... Or just craft something that looks decent.

XT-Innovator 12-29-2011 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by puzzleboy (Post 3581883)
Yep, was thinking that if I could get a hold of two good pieces..... Or just craft something that looks decent.

My buddys 290 is put up for winter now, but I could have access to it in April. His has both vents on it now, but he had the same issue when he lost his drivers side vent cover bumping a dock. He had a mold made from another friends yellow 290, and he might still have one drivers side mold now. The original Baja molds are long gone.

Since the area is black you could also find some black, or dark smoked 3/8" plexiglass and heat it to curve and mold a cover. Good colors on that boat for a 95'. Many of them were Pink, or Teal colors.

puzzleboy 12-30-2011 04:37 AM

Thanks Dave. If the guy has the mold(s) that would be great! Your other idea is good too. The guy's an aircraft sheetmetal mechanic, so I wouldn't rule out something in aluminum either.


Yeah, the boat doesn't look too bad. Graphics have been repainted, and the interior looks really good. Original vinyl I think.

Jeff Schulte 07-28-2021 10:42 AM

1991 029 baja twin 350 mags
 
Question i dont see many like mine at all it does have a 2 foot swim plat form on the rear so is this boat a 029 offshore or a 029 ca it ha s a cuddy cabin and very well built it also has 2 port windows on the front of the boat both sides any info would be great guys i have had it for going on 13 years in okc

93 shooter 07-28-2021 10:47 AM


Originally Posted by Jeff Schulte (Post 4799319)
Question i dont see many like mine at all it does have a 2 foot swim plat form on the rear so is this boat a 029 offshore or a 029 ca it ha s a cuddy cabin and very well built it also has 2 port windows on the front of the boat both sides any info would be great guys i have had it for going on 13 years in okc

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