33OL w/ 496HO's
 

Been reading this site for quite awhile as I'm doing some research for my next boat. I'm torn between the 30OL and the 33. The extra room in the 33 is very nice but I'm wondering if the 33 with HO's is really slow to get on plane and kinda sluggish? Also how many mph's do you lose between the 30 and the 33 both with HO's. Thanks for the help!

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No speed difference really. Sometimes the 33 can even have the upper hand on the 30. Time to plane depends on a few factors, but there is not much of a difference there either. The 33 is probably the best hull Baja ever made imo. Both boats are nice, but if they are in the same shape ect. I would never hesitate to pick up a 33 over a 30. Depending on where you boat, you will also like the added length of the 33 in rougher seas. Run both, see what you like, you are the one who has to live with it.

I have seen posts on here saying a 30OL will be close to 80 with HO's and the 33 will be in the low 70's. I do most of my boating on lakes and maybe 1 or 2 offshore days a year and maybe 1 or 2 overnights. Planning on driving them in the next month or 2 when it warms up a little. Thanks for the input.

33 is an amazing boat! Do you mind giving us a budget, year, etc? Where do you boat?

I have a 03 33 ol with 496 mags and it run 69 to 72 mph depending on
how much fuel and how many people with 4 blade 26 props,it comes
out of the hole like a sling shot.

Yeah, don't worry about planing with HOs. My much heavier 342 with 502s jumps right on plane. I flirt right around 70 depending on how full or empty the cooler is:)

Anyone of these 33's for sale in the Great Lakes area?

Around a 100k is where im looking. Im not set on a year, that will just depend on hrs, the shape of the boat ect.. I do most of my boating on a lake in NC/SC, and may take it to the coast a couple times a year.

Equal power, the 30 is a bit faster....the 33 wins all other
comparisons.

$ 100k, you shouldnt have any problem finding one
....heck, I figure if I could even get 75k for mine,
that would be tops.

Like others said...probably the best hull Baja made, great balance. Have run several 33's when I was in the biz. Pre-01 with the 502's would run low 70's. 2001 and newer Baja raised the factory X. With HO's expect mid 70's, MAG's low 70's. 29's and 30's will be faster but the 33 will take the slop better thus being faster in rough.

I have been watching a few 33's right now, some good deals out there on a few...others I guess haven't seen the news on the economy we are in :whistle:

Hossman: I'm sure we've been wathing the same ones, there are some that seem to be priced pretty reasonable or even a little and the others I ask myself what these people are thinking?

Yeah as I said before I'm gonna go crawl around and ride both once the weather gets a little warmer. So once I do that I'll have a better idea. Thanks for the help guys!

They're right, the 33 is the best hull Baja made. I had a 33 w 500efi's and it ran 78. I traded it on a 36OL and I wished that I didn't.
The 33 hull rode better, better balance and felt quicker to respond.
Also, I could never seem to balance the 36 side to side. I was always adjusting the tabs so that it would ride level side to side.
Also the 33 came up on plane alot quicker.

33 is a great hull, I also had one with 496 Mag's. Ran great and rode well. Cockpit space is one of the best out there.

Call Brett w/PBB at LOTO about this boat. It is a great looking, quality boat. The 33 is a great boat/hull.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43799-en.html

That thing looks sweet!

It sure does look nice. I really like the color scheme on that boat. It has the nice size fridge as well for all your beverages.

I know that boat well. Very well maintained, it was bought from the first owner with 20 hrs and has had 0 issues. It's been stored in my heated shop since it was bought.

Nice 33!!!


Performance Boat Brokerage has 2 in stock!!

Pick your color

Even swap for my 03 29 with HO's and 290 hrs?:lolhit: Wanted a 33 again when I bought the 29 but couldn't pass up the deal I got...but hine sights 20/20 with what I put into mine to get running and cleaned up I could have bought a 33. I'm in the market for something bigger again...just a matter of timing.

I think the 30 has a better cabin. Thats one of the reasons I´m looking for a 35. Stringer outlaws may be great boats but I dont like the interior. 2 useless couches you cant sleep in and they cant be transformed into a bed. The small space in the front is also a bit to small to sleep in.

Other than that I think the 33 i more bang for the buck.

If you dont like the couches, you'd hate the netting seat arrangement mine has.

It does have a bigger bed ( than the std cuddy) though...and it's quite suitable for sleeping, or passing out, whichever comes first:ernaehrung004:

LMAO !!!

Jay, I'm curious what speed can you cruise at w?575's, and where's the topend???
I'm guessing 60 and 90.

See ya,
Kelly

J T's boat is sweeet! Mine is similar. I Run a slower prop then him and I think I have more ponies under the hatch (even though I believe his 575's are not stock?) :drink:

Easily cruise at 60 and run mid 90's, fully loaded, full of fuel, 6 people, etc. Still searching for a drive to hold up to some aggressive prop testing to break over the 100mph mark!

This thread helps to keep me motivated in my build!

#6's ?? Or B-Max Poker Run Edition??

Boat has stellings boxes and broken Extreme Advantage IMCO SC's :lolhit:

#6 will not fit unless using a NXT Transom assembly (which houses the transmission in the stand off box)....need to move the engines forward aprox 1". Cut larger hole, and fill the lower part of the bravo hole in. Very expensive, to much work.

BMAX upper is strong, the lower uses XR gears, so not enough advantage over the SC IMO, (besides better customer service)

Arneson Bravo conversion is my favorite so far....

X-Power is sweet but to much money

The new SCX-4 might be an option, waiting to see how they work out, been waiting and waiting or would have already bought one of the other options!!!

Might just give up my research and install standard upper and lower SCX drives. Strong but slower then the other options...........

Haha
Actually, if there is some sort of sleep worthy bed I´d love to have that netting seats.

Cruise: 55 mph @ 3500 rpm ( high drive heights dont always
lead to efficient cruise speeds) top end: 88-92 on average.

Adding a 1" piece of egg crate foam padding under the the V berth padding makes a world of difference.

That is exactly what I hated about the 36 hull. The 36 has a much more rockered hull design and you really need the nose in the air to make them run fast. That is why the netting cuddy worked better in the 36ol than the 33! If I had to choose my favorite it would be between the 33 and 35 Outlaw. The prototype 35 with HO's would run 74-75 all day long. Now if someone was to add the 35 notched transom to a 33 hull, now we are talking! I think that alone would add 2-3 mph easy. Just my opinion.

XT

Why did you have to bring that up for everyone to see! That was a secret idea I was thinking of doing to my boat, and having you help!!!!

Great minds must think a like!!!

Now if only you could help me pick out drives.....

Pics of the "Team Baja" poker run style cabin in my boat....JayTee's prob is similar.

The cushions even have their own carrying case so you can remove them and gain another .000002 mph!

Personally I really like the cabin. The V-Birth is larger like JT said. Lots of storage. The Simpson netting seats are actually comfortable. I believe there are additional bulkheads also?

http://i1140.photobucket.com/albums/...n/P4270013.jpg

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While designing the 35 hull I had to prove the notch would benefit the hull design so I had Kevin Brown at Lakeway Boat Repair notch a 30ol test boat that had small block 6.2 MPI's. We got on average 2.5 mph more depending on props and the X was never even raised. Kevin later notched another 30ol with HO's for Hawkeye Boats that I heard ran well, but I would get worried on the CG with BB in a 30ol hull. Kevin also modified Bobby Todd's 33ol making the rounded keel a flat delta pad, but never added the notch.

Yours could be the first 33 to do it!

If you think about it almost everyones 33 foot model is their best performing boat in many manufacturers: 10 Meter Fountains, 32 Hustler, 33 AVS, and many others, but when you go longer much more HP is needed, and when you go under 30' small block power is better balanced.

XT

Bobbys boat has wider strakes too. I am wondering if you benefit more from strake width than the delta pad. Whats your take?

I`m really loving this 35ol interior
 

especially the middle cushion. All Boats should have that option, I end up sleeping on the floor between the benches


http://www.bajamarine.com/outlaw/images/35_INT01_08.jpg

That looks awesome! If I could find a 33 with that setup it would be lot harder to chose between that and the 35.

Thanks for the thread guys.. I've been looking at these two models myself trying to figure out which way to go. And to add to the comment about the simpson net seats, I sat in a Baja at the miami show years ago that had those seats in it and was surprised at how comfortable they were.

Kevin, or Bobby could tell you better than me on the exact changes, but I think he lengthened the inner strakes and sharpened them along with the transom corner. I never have been in his boat to draw my own opinion on the results.

XT

While re-powering I was seriously thinking about adding a notch. It would be such a pain in the a$$ and if it isnt done right, it could really destroy the integrity of the hull. Since I run it the ocean, the last thing I want to do is destroy the integrity of an already aging 2003 hull.

I am seriously considering letting Steve 1 widen my strakes and blueprint my hull though :daz:

I just got my 03 33 ol in september and I love it! It has 496 ho's. I do most of my boating in the ocean and it handles it with ease! It hops up on plane no problem even with a full boat and as far as speed I've had it to 74.6 gps. For 100k you could get something great. I got mine for a little over half book value. Good luck!!!!

I can personally vouch for the other 33OL w/ 496HO's at PBB:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43743-en.html

The boat runs solid and Scott, the owner, has always taken great care of it. Clean boat that gets up and goes with unique colors that aren't overdone. Someone will be very happy with this ride. :drink:

Check out My '08 30 Outlaw for sale on eBay

https://picasaweb.google.com/1159749...7/200830Outlaw