Nice boat, but.....
 

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o49579-en.html

Yikes! Nice boat, but, a little pricey??

Since you brought it up.
In blue book world, 67,030 was the top I could come up with for just the boat and not adding covers or bimini as I could only see so much in the ad and it told nothing of it.
Add a generous amount for the trailer 12k = 79,030. Plus concidering the hours were at 283 which should be about half of normal around 50 hours a year, I would say it's a little high, but given these numbers a dealer would be around 86,900 and give you a great deal back down to the 79k.

It's a high starting price, but you can always go down. Try going up on a deal......

As I like to say asking prices are just that, asking prices. Offers are offers...money talks, tire kickers walk! People get too hung up on asking prices, if you follow the market and book values and you are smart you should know where things should sell at unless you "have" to sell or move something quick which just FUBAR's the market. :daz:

Typical dealer.........

It will sit & sit & sit.......

When the economy dumps, the dealer will unload it in the low 60's.

The dynamics for the market in bajas is drastically changing fast....

The market is in the 30-55k range....Old depreciated out 10-15 year old boats

I commented in another Cig thread that dealer asking prices are back to 2007 levels.

It's always easy to identify "tops" in market & here we are again with people back in fantasy land thinking they are going to get rich "flipping" boats............

I'll take one a couple years older for less than half that price! There's a few to choose from right now.

Or, I don't know, pick up this one that's 4 years newer, less hours for LESS MONEY!!:eekdrop:

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/20...tlaw-101825072

Heck get your checkbook out! Now go find a almost new really nice trailer for 4k. Not!
The hours on the yours is the engines only, the OP's was the whole boat. Oops.
Makes the first one look cheap!

You can get a decent used trailer for 4-5K, even if you spent 10K on a new one you would only be at 89K for a boat that's FOUR years newer, also, there is NOTHING in the ad about the boat being repowered? What makes you think the boat has more hours on it than the motors.

As for "getting out the chequebook" well, you seem to think its some kind of "deal" maybe you should step up?

In this economy there is a big difference between book values and market value though, besides, the boat is sitting at Outerlimits, there boats are DEFINATELY at the top end of the boat market, so, they might not have a lot of experience with "cheaper" boats

Yeah right! I was not the one knocking someone's ad to begin with. Real class there. I am sure when you go to sell your little 24 footer that you would just love it to have half the forum knocking your price down for you.
It's a two way street you know. Be nice.

Besides, I have bought four boats in the last year and it will be a least one more before I am in the market.

Wow, you're a little touchy on the subject. Michael never knocked the price at all, I believe he said he felt the price was a little high and I relayed what I would personally do if I was in the market for that boat considering there's been talk of the 2000 33 recently for sale for under half the asking price of this boat.

But since you bring up all this other stuff - Blue book don't mean sh!t! Market value does. If you've bought and sold several boats as you say you have you'd think you would know that.

Find a nice trailer to go under a 33' foot boat for 4k? Is that a joke? You can find them all day long. I sold my Aluminum South FLorida trailer for 3500 when I sold my gun and it was in GREAT shape. Hell, I can get a new alumimum trailer built for 5k to go under that boat.

Where does it say anywhere in the ad about the 2006 that the motor hours are different from the hull hours? And even if they are, who cares if the boat survey's out good? But just to be clear, you're knocking a four year newer boat with same power and less hours for less money because it doesn't have a trailer!? Sorry, you don't have a leg to stand on.

Now, talk about classy....You talking crap about a guys boat? That's some straight up class right there.

When you're the highest priced (by SEVERAL thousand dollars) on the market for what you're selling, it's going to get some attention, even if it's negative. Maybe that's what the seller is doing? :whistle:

Pull your panties out of a wad man. It is what it is. facts are facts. Really no need to argue. The boat will sell or it won't. All good.

Nice clean boat, but unfortunately, the market is dead in this price range. In a year, when it hasn't sold, maybe someone can get a deal on it. Plenty of clean boats, including a couple of Top Guns, for this kinda money. Most banks won't finance over 10 years old, so youre looking at a cash buyer. Low 60's? Notta chance. Not being mean that's just the way the market is right now on boats in this age and price range. Good luck. :whistle:

My boat may be little, still, its newer than yours, no offense but you have only had 12 posts on this site and your already attacking people? Generally its a pretty laid back, helpful group in here, not a lot of drama, and most people try and keep it that way.

I simply stated that I thought it was expensive, I wondered if anyone on here was aware of the boats history? MAYBE there was a reason, it was a "one off" or celebrity owned, special lay up, who knows? To me [and apparantly most others] it seemed like a nice boat, but, very expensive, which is why I asked about it.

Thanks Tank!

Thats exactly what I thought, and what I meant, nice looking boat, just seemed pricey and I wondered why, not looking to start [or finish] a fight with anyone, I have subscribed to tons of forums for all different forms of motorsports and I have to say I have learned more, and had more input, and made more friends on here than ANYWHERE else. Great group of guys on here, and guys like Tank are the FIRST ones to step up and help by offering advice or input, doesn't matter if you have a 42ft Outerlimits or a "little" boat like me and thats what makes this board so cool.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/f...-fountain.html

Apples to oranges? Sure, but most buyers for this type of boat are shopping more than one make. As long as dealers are offering these kind of deals, nobody is going to spend 60K+ on any sort of boat in this range. Half the price for a comparable boat with trailer? From a dealer, no less? Personally, I would probably prefer the 33 OL for the extra cabin space, but not for twice the money.

You want to compare a Fountain, try this one on. 35' 07 w/ same motors but less hours for 10k less and its on a Myco.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o45220-en.html

And the Fountain is a stepped hull

The price of Fountains, especially the 35 Lightning/Executioners has really dropped off recently, not sure why? Maybe just a lot of them for sale right now, but, there sure are some good deals out there lately.

I had no choice but to :lolhit:

Huh? I don't get it?

At the price...

I've talked to the owner of this 35....beautiful very well taken care of boat!!!! Super nice guy too. I believe he's wanting to move up as well. I know y'all have seen me comment in the CIGs and Donzi's as well as Fountains...just wish the 35 Fountain was a little bigger for a 35' boat...38's are pricy enough to just step to a 42 which is too much boat for us. But then take into account the 35 ZR in Austin we looked at. 67 hours and $110k.... Is that boat worth $110k? I dunno, I guess it's all perspective to the brand you're looking at. Say my budget is $100k...what do you buy? An older 388 Hustler or GUN that may need 20k in refreshining or would it be 100k on a little newer fountain or Donzi? What is anything really worth? Whatever someone's willing to pay for it I guess. I've had some good offers on my 29 but had strings attached and I've had some that make me question the common knowledge of a person in general....

Keep the site positive...whole reason I stepped away from other sites. Been a member here for a long time but didn't start to post really till now. I thank all of y'all who have made great comments and suggestions to help me and hopefully I've given some feedback too. Unfortunately our sport is a dying breed and it's up to us to keep it going.

For the price, that 35 is a clean, low maintenance boat with the 496's. I would prefer a 38 for the staggered engines, but you are right, you can get a 42 for the same money, and they are a big boat. There are some decent guns in the same range, but I would be leary of a boat that heavy with Bravos, and do you really want to spend more money updating drives after you purchase? That being said, Guns are very popular, and would probably have the best resale down the road, not to mention the build quality if you can find a clean one. I saw the Donzi you are referring to, and though it has low hours, I think it's overpriced, especially if the owner appears to have deep enough pockets that he was unaware that lake levels dropped and it fell off the lift. If he was that unappreciative of the boat, how well was it maintained? It is a nice boat however. It sounds like you are looking for black motors to keep insurance down, I would take a hard look at that Fountain, or, possibly even one of the 36 outlaws I see listed, some of them appear to be clean for the money, and priced about the same as the 33's on the market.

You're in a great position once you sell your boat. 100k you have a lot of options right now. I'd even strongly consider buying one of the 33' Outlaws for the mid 40's - 50's and have money in the bank to do minor work when it comes up (or even rebuild the motors in a season or two).

That Fountain is nice. I just don't like the narrowness of the cockpit and the cabin, the low freeboard and the overall lack of length. But that boat will beat anything speed wise in it's size and year range. Fast hull, clean boat. I just think you'll actually feel your 29 was more roomy then a 35 Fountain. Not talking sh!t, I've been in a few 38 Fountains and always felt they were crampt.

REEEEEAL hard to get past some of these Gladiator prices I'm seeing too. :whistle:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o49534-en.html

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o49533-en.html


But the Glads are for a very select crowd.
Good luck on your search. This is the fun part!

:poopoo:! Don't tease me with the Glads Tank! That's dirty pool lol! If I wasn't married that listing for the one in Beaumont would be gone! That was listed at $119...then $95 I think and now wow! Like you said in the cig section very niche market...

I've been around and sold Baja for mannnny years in the past, want away from the line as much as I do like them and "dollar for dollar, bang for the buck they are hard to beat"...just want a little more custom and refinement. Never a fan of the 36, talk about needing power to run...but great wave crusher, never a good seller here for us. Wife really liked the ZR but my 29 has more room then that or the 35 Fountain really...almost not enough to make the jump...the 33 OL has gobs of room, great ride and even Baja will tell you it was the best boat they made....but needs blue power IMO.

I wouldn't mind blue motors but yes the ins (if you can get someone on the gulf coast to carry it without it costing 3x note) can be tricky. I really like that 38 LipShip is redoing but over 100k for a 20 yr old boat I can't justify even knowing it will be like new.... Want something we can grow with a Little. Wanted another 33 when we grabbed the 29 but couldn't pass the deal up....now I gotta move it (reasonable offers accepted :party-smiley-004:) so I can seriously shop.

Anyway...didn't mean to :hijack: the thread....

On that '06 Outlaw, what is up with the pointers on the gauges ? All but the speedo is white pointers on white ?? Kinda weird to me..

That is strange.. faded? Sb rpm looks like the big end has a touch of orange. Speed is liq filled so no fade??

This boat is sold. I talked to the owner and he has a deposit on it!

Sounds like you need a 90's top gun! Good deals out there on them. Awesome cabin, good resale, wave crushers, very roomy, in your price range!

My wife likes your thinking Tank lol...

Smitty... Gauges are faded....look at the now pink horn button. Boat looks to have been not so greatly taken care of but nothing that can't be fixed

Hossman,

I was going to link to the super clean Cafe in the Cig section, but looks like you're already hot on the trail... Possibly a little on the high side as far as price goes, but still WAY cheaper than you could build it for...

Absolutely beautiful boat.

:hijack:

:party-smiley-004:

Broker hit me back last night... I'll post in the Cig section on it.