Need opinions on 29 Outlaw
 

I am looking to upgrade from my '98 272 to the 29 Outlaw. What do you guys think of the one below? It is a '99, which is a little older than I would like, but it has brand new twin 383 strokers. Pictures look fairly clean. I am mainly interested in what everyone thinks of the motors and what I might expect for cruising/top speed with cruising being about 3200-3400 rpm. Any input on price would be helpful too. Thanks in advance.

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/19...tlaw-101843315

What is a factory 383 stroker? I know in the early 2000's they made the scorpion small blocks. The horsepower shows 700 total so that doesn't match up with 350 mags or the 6.2 liter engines. I would want more info on the power. Other than the transom the boat looks fairly clean. Find out what pitch props are on the boat, that will help determine speeds. Assuming stock small blocks I'd say top end around 65 on gps.

Well if it really has 700HP I would think more in the 70+ range. I think the 330's boats will run close to 70, and you are talking more HP with less weight.

Thanks guys. Here is the info on the repower. Looks like you can order 383 Strokers from the factory. Horsepower is listed as 350. http://www.mercurymarine.com/repower...stroker-bravo/

If its really 700 propshaft horsepower then yeah upper 60s. From what I remember the boats with 300 horsepower small blocks were slower than the 7.4L 300 hp boats. I always assumed the small blocks had less torque and couldn't turn the same props.

Seems like most of the boats with stock 7.4s (300 propshaft hp, 330 crankshaft hp) ran mid 60's. My dad had a '97 with those engines and we saw 70 once and 68 anytime we wanted but that seems rare. I've even had a couple of people on here call me a liar for saying he hit 70 but I saw the gps with my own eyes.

I would think 70 would be a possiblity with those motors and the right props. 496 mag boats run 73-75, so 50 less horsepower, but less weight, should theoretically balance out somewhat.

just from the pictures, there is a lot of wear. the cabin carpert is either faded or stained. rear hatch wood is all rotted and needs replacing, the windscreen is missing. starbord bolster looks like the seams are coming apart at bottem of left arm rest. Saw this boat all last year on the internet. Not sure if it is the wrap or not but above cabin door looks like 2 real good cracks. May just be from the seams on the wrap.

I have experience with a 383 Stroker. You can buy them from merc with a 1 yr warranty. HP is 350. Small block. Very nice motor. Outperformed the 454 330 HP it replaced. No issues with torque. You just need to make sure you prop it right. Props used on 454 do not work well. I replaced the 454 with the 383 stroker in a 252SS Formula. Was a good choice. This engine is designed to replace the 454 by Merc.

Carpet has a plastic runner on it. I think that maybe what you are seeing. The hatch does look like it has some water issues.

Thanks for the info guys and good eyes on the engine hatch. I am about to replace the wood and upholstery on my 272 engine hatch next week so I know what thats all about. It could give me some bargaining power if I decide to make an offer.

I thought about going to look at the boat, until I saw how yellowed the bottom was and how bad the drives looked... I bet that thing has a lot of corrosion and rust!!!

Wow...just saw the solid yellow 04 29 with mags sold...anybody know who, what it sold for? Mine was same price with bigger motors and not a call?

Call and ask them. I'm sure you don't want to know! :party-smiley-004:

Lol... I might hit Casey up to see....

I'd very much like to know also.....

I talked to this guy, the upholstery has several seams stretched (vinyl pulling apart and not threads broke) He said the back bench has an 18in seam stretched in addition to the sunpad.

He has 450 hours on boat and said he puts about 2 quarts into "each" motor during the summer and it always does 74mph. I took that as he runs them hard and I read that 502's drink oil, but 2 quarts seems like a lot.

He has had it about 3 years and buys and sells toys. I did not pursue this b/c of the upholstery, hours with drinking oil and he was firm at $35k...

:)

I think I would keep looking.......

14 year old boat is still 14 years old even though it has new engines

With it being in salt now, I would run not walk away

There was a 29OL in Illinois that Eddie was brokering, super clean, low hour fresh water boat, I think it was a 99' for the same money.

I was lined up with Eddie on that boat!! He sold 2 weeks before I finally sold mine!! My luck!

Some of the speed numbers here are a little optimistic. Twin 385's will run about 72 with labbed props. Twin 375's will run about 69-70. So twin 350's will be about 65 on GPS speeds, not the "Dream O Meter". These are assuming stock x dim.

what was the outcome of this boat?

I never went to look at it. The seller never called me back. I need to sell my 272 before I can get too serious about buying anyway. Probably just going to enjoy my 272 for a while longer. I was mainly wondering what people thought of the 383 strokers.

I hear ya.. I was curious too.. should be pretty close to 70 with 700 HP and less weight than bbc's...

may want to check this 29 out
 

Thanks.. I am working a good deal on a 98`33ol.. if survey is good, should pick up sat am :evilb:

Good choice--Save ya the next step for a few more years

Congrats man. Any pics? The 33 is a great boat, tons of party room!

I was looking between the 33 and 36. Went with the 36 for a few reasons. Found a great one, more room in the cuddy and great price.