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redwhite 05-02-2013 01:20 PM

Supercharged 25 outlaw
 
Hey Y'all,
My first post on OSO. Can you guys give me some advise on a boat I am looking at in the link below. I am very familiar with supercharged set ups on vehicles but not in boats. What do I need to look out for when looking at a boat like this? Mostly in areas of the out drive and other items. What can I expect the top speed to be on a set up like this?

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/17188

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Fenderjack 05-02-2013 01:27 PM

Hey, welcome :D

First off i would HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that is 1000 hp. Maybe more like 550-650. The OL are nice boats. Not really to much to look for on a boat that new, other then obvious signs of cracks in the gel, other damage. Stringers and transom should be in good shape. Have to find out if the engine truly has 250 hours on it, and what paper work he has to prove this is 1000 hp. Cruise is not going to be in the 70 range. Find out what pitch prop is on the boat, we can tell you more as to the speed it will prob run. Looks to be a clean boat overall, has the external steering which is a big plus in terms of handling. Price seems to be a touch on the high end to me.

John jr

downforce137 05-02-2013 01:30 PM

with 800lbs of boost, thing thing has to be a rocketship. :)

redwhite 05-02-2013 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Fenderjack (Post 3917536)
Hey, welcome :D

First off i would HIGHLY HIGHLY doubt that is 1000 hp. Maybe more like 550-650. The OL are nice boats. Not really to much to look for on a boat that new, other then obvious signs of cracks in the gel, other damage. Stringers and transom should be in good shape. Have to find out if the engine truly has 250 hours on it, and what paper work he has to prove this is 1000 hp. Cruise is not going to be in the 70 range. Find out what pitch prop is on the boat, we can tell you more as to the speed it will prob run. Looks to be a clean boat overall, has the external steering which is a big plus in terms of handling. Price seems to be a touch on the high end to me.

John jr

Yeah....I know the add listing is messed up. I am sure it is probably making 6 - 8 LBS of boost and I would guess around 600 - 650 HP. Would that put top speed in the mid to upper 70's maybe?

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kragar 05-02-2013 02:12 PM

looks like a 496 not a 454

Rwbrew3 05-02-2013 03:40 PM

Clean boat ! I would see if he has a build sheet on it , prop size would give a great starting point as well. Any boat with that big of power would have paper work to verify it! The price is a tad high but not to far off the mark... survey is a must before purchase!!

baditude 05-03-2013 11:19 AM

If it is a 496 the 2.3 whipple will be good for 650 hp with a 5 pound pulley x2 on pulling the hours and see how hard it's been ran. And it won't cruise at 70 top speed should be low to mid 70s if its proped right and screaming

V.I. Outlaw 05-03-2013 11:58 AM

if you do decide to buy it... install a drive shower.

4bus 05-03-2013 12:14 PM

Just by the way the ad is written I would run. The guy is definitely a screwball, and most likely has no real mechanical knowledge of boats, which makes for a real scary previous owner. It's one think to exaggerate the speed, but to not know the displacement, boost, or HP just scares me. Every once in a while I meet someone with this disease in the boating world, even worse in the winter when you can't shut them up or prove them wrong.

Hook'em 05-03-2013 12:25 PM

+ 1 I was just waiting on someone else to "say it". Just from reading the ad, I wouldn't even consider the boat. When the process starts out that phucked up, (he doesn't have a clue) it can only get worse from there.

rchevelle71 05-03-2013 12:43 PM

Comes with free roll of white duck tape for the back seat:rolleyes::poopoo::eekdrop:

bigredbaja 05-03-2013 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by redwhite (Post 3917532)
Hey Y'all,
My first post on OSO. Can you guys give me some advise on a boat I am looking at in the link below. I am very familiar with supercharged set ups on vehicles but not in boats. What do I need to look out for when looking at a boat like this? Mostly in areas of the out drive and other items. What can I expect the top speed to be on a set up like this?

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/17188

.

Be Careful!!!! i agree it looks like a 496 which many on here will tell you in if not properly modified when the supercharger is installed can become a gernade. Just have it checked by a good mechanic i know from experience the first boat i bought when i got back into about 6 years ago had a side mount whipple set up on a 502 mag problem was it was not set up properly and i ended up spending a lot of money trying to make it right.

TW720HVY 05-05-2013 01:34 PM


Originally Posted by Rwbrew3 (Post 3917642)
Clean boat !

... survey is a must before purchase!!

Clean boat, we are looking at the same pictures right? :party-smiley-004:

Personally it is not even worth a survey after looking at those pictures. :lolhit:


Originally Posted by 4bus (Post 3918261)
Just by the way the ad is written I would run. The guy is definitely a screwball, and most likely has no real mechanical knowledge of boats, which makes for a real scary previous owner. It's one think to exaggerate the speed, but to not know the displacement, boost, or HP just scares me. Every once in a while I meet someone with this disease in the boating world, even worse in the winter when you can't shut them up or prove them wrong.

"Run" is great advice, especially if you do not have experience with boats, they are not at all like cars especially if they are not taken care of. After looking at those pictures, that boat hasn't been taken care of. Keep looking, there are a lot of boats out there.

Rwbrew3 05-05-2013 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by TW720HVY (Post 3919403)
Clean boat, we are looking at the same pictures right? :party-smiley-004:

Personally it is not even worth a survey after looking at those pictures. :lolhit:



"Run" is great advice, especially if you do not have experience with boats, they are not at all like cars especially if they are not taken care of. After looking at those pictures, that boat hasn't been taken care of. Keep looking, there are a lot of boats out there.



Haha.... I stand corrected! I didn't see the interior pics, that thing is a mess.... I think the advice to " RUN " is on point!!

TW720HVY 05-05-2013 04:51 PM


Originally Posted by Rwbrew3 (Post 3919411)
Haha.... I stand corrected! I didn't see the interior pics, that thing is a mess.... I think the advice to " RUN " is on point!!

I figured as much. :lolhit:

bajabob 05-05-2013 05:01 PM

look like stock exhaust ?? i say beware!! 1000hp not with that exhaust

mikeoutlaw24 05-05-2013 06:08 PM

baja
 
freeport got hit hard with super storm sandy ??

Scalded Dawg 05-06-2013 08:39 PM

I say BS on the Horsepower......:lolhit: Needs a better drive, will not cruise at 70mph and looking at maybe 600-650hp tops with it being a 496. I'm gonna guess 75GPS tops depending on prop and X-dimension........imo. Buyer beware of true hours on engine, shape of drive and of course transom and stringer shape. You definitely won't know if it's had the brakes ran off it so I would look at a compression test and leak down too boot.

firehill19 05-07-2013 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by mikeoutlaw24 (Post 3919524)
freeport got hit hard with super storm sandy ??

I was going to say the same thing! Good call!

articfriends 05-09-2013 12:09 PM

1000 hp should turn a 32 pitch 6000 rpms at 100 mph IF it actually had that kinda power, mine does. A 454 or 496 would need about 20 psi of boost and the best heads out there to make that kinda hp and you would be into strictly race gas territory, RUN, Smitty

conneroutlaw 05-10-2013 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by redwhite (Post 3917532)
Hey Y'all,
My first post on OSO. Can you guys give me some advise on a boat I am looking at in the link below. I am very familiar with supercharged set ups on vehicles but not in boats. What do I need to look out for when looking at a boat like this? Mostly in areas of the out drive and other items. What can I expect the top speed to be on a set up like this?

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/17188

.

I have a 1997 outlaw sst w/ a high performance 502 m1 procharger w 8 pds boost. It does about 80mph non gps speed with a spinelle prop. I had a few things upgraded and not sure on the new horsepower, never had it dynoed my self, but when i bought it, it had 620 hp qouted buy the owner

I would suggest have a marine mechanice look at the engine, and make sure everything was done right on the engine. Make sure the guy knows about super chargers too. I had to fix things the previous owner did incorrectly. Big thing arp studs, fuel pressure regulator, fuel pressure gauge, better fuel pump "electric", anti syphane valved removed, adaquate fuel pressure ratio to boost, you must run at least 91 octane ( i have to in mine ), the right size fuel lines so you don't go lean. I would have a marina that builds race boat engines look at the engine in detail before you buy

also you can call or email me for more info

[email protected]

716-673-5176 cell

JJZehnder 05-10-2013 12:49 PM

Run

Fenderjack 05-10-2013 02:04 PM

Some of you guys :lolhit: I dunno if I would say RUN. I would get more detailed info on the boat. If your local go look at it, do a compression test, check oil ect, check drive for slop( shouldn't have any if boat was always hydro steer) Doesn't look to be anything that can not be cleaned up. That is all ammo for price nego.


John jr

conneroutlaw 05-11-2013 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by redwhite (Post 3917532)
Hey Y'all,
My first post on OSO. Can you guys give me some advise on a boat I am looking at in the link below. I am very familiar with supercharged set ups on vehicles but not in boats. What do I need to look out for when looking at a boat like this? Mostly in areas of the out drive and other items. What can I expect the top speed to be on a set up like this?

http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/17188

.

I agree with Fenderjack , get it checked out best you can and if you really like the set up get it, it is more expensive to make that boat that way then to buy it. It sounds really fast. Just have a marina check it out. make sure the marina is familiar with super chargers and that type of high performance engine. And you should be fine. if you really like the boat go for it. It is only money and a good time. You will always have to put money inot boats no matter what you have. it is like women. They never stop needing or wanting things


jj

99BajaOutlaw 03-04-2014 11:15 PM

502 SC trouble shooting
 
I have a 99 OL 502 w/whipple side mount 2.3, still has the piggy back computer. I blew a head gasket last summer, pulled engine and rebuilt her this winter. As of now the injectors aren't pulsing, wont start. Engine check light is on, whipple check light is showing code 15 (I think). I have went over grounds and all connections, everything is good to go. I am thinking of buying a Mercrusier scanner to read/delete the codes, and run an injector test.

Will the scanner allow me to read/delete the code on the piggy back computer?
Is this the next step, or am I just missing a simple ground or a bad connection?

Any help would be appreciated and if anyone has a pdf of the instruction booklet, that would be awesome!

I am trying to avoid taking it to a shop, it has to be something simple, right???

Thanks,

kennyo 03-05-2014 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 3922267)
1000 hp should turn a 32 pitch 6000 rpms at 100 mph IF it actually had that kinda power, mine does. A 454 or 496 would need about 20 psi of boost and the best heads out there to make that kinda hp and you would be into strictly race gas territory, RUN, Smitty

Hey Smitty, I'm selling mine. Bought a 33 OL last month. Mines a little older but I have a dyno sheet with 927hp on it. Plus it's $10k cheaper :) We all know that HP ain't cheap!


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