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nailit 10-09-2014 08:38 PM

Will this Tow my 33 OL??
 
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ha, just kidding, I got plenty of slack about towing with our Expedition even though it towed pretty well.

Dont worry, this is not another TOW THREAD!!!

But I did UPGRADE!!!!

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Havent towed it yet, but cant wait, this thing is a beast and 19-20 mpg on hwy!!

T-RAV 10-09-2014 08:49 PM

Nice ride!!

Captain YARRR 10-09-2014 10:01 PM

Thank god, it's not winter yet...please no tow arguments yet. Last year got out of hand. ;)

Very sweet ride! But...was the wind pushing you for that MPG? :)

nailit 10-09-2014 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by Captain YARRR (Post 4200569)

Very sweet ride! But...was the wind pushing you for that MPG? :)

Actually I was surprised too, was expecting 18, hoping for a least 17. I ran 73 all the way home and it averaged 19.8, then today I was running late as I got stuck behind and accident so I ran 80 and it was still around 19. Driving into New Orleans it registered over 20! its not hand calculated, but it will not be that far off! Plenty power in this 6.7l!!

Feels like a Ferrari compared to my lifted 4dr jeep Wrangler with 35s! Oh and they finally put a/c seats in the trucks!!!

F-2 Speedy 10-10-2014 06:07 AM

Ive got an 05 with the 6.0 in it, not very impressive, but its OK, it managed to pull my TG back from NY, Ive heard the 6.7 is a good engine, I once pulled my 33 OL with my John Deer, but just in the driveway :D

92nsx 10-10-2014 07:37 AM

You will really like the longer wheel base :)

Unlimited jd 10-10-2014 08:38 AM

If it's not a sport chassis I'm sure someone will say no

RiReuter 10-10-2014 09:13 AM

Nice, I will be buying a new 6.7 after the first of the year, can't wait.

NKissau 10-10-2014 09:19 AM

I've got the same truck. Love it. Pulls my 38 like it's not even there.

nailit 10-10-2014 09:29 AM


Originally Posted by 92nsx (Post 4200683)
You will really like the longer wheel base :)

I used to have a F150 Fx4 that I pulled my 25ol so I am used to the wheelbase and when I pulled the 33 with a couple 150s, it helped.

strange thing is that i can back up my trailer into my house better with the longer wheelbase than the short expedition.. wierd!!
My parking spot is rather weird, its on side of the house... but, I have to pull up the street directly in front of my house that dead ends in my front yard.

So, I pull up the street, then back in to the left facing back to hit the neighbors driveway where there is a mailbox right on the left of the driveway. Then go around a bush and then to the right back into my yard and slip in behind my huge a/c unit. all with limited visibility of the neighbors house. My experince level is very good, but this seems to be easier with a truck.. odd!

MINK 10-10-2014 10:06 AM

6.7 is such a beast!

Eliminatorshane 10-10-2014 07:14 PM

Nice truck. I have a dually duramax and who cares what people think about what tows the best. They all have their plus and minuses. Never thought I would be a diesel lover till I got one . I will never go gas again even if I towed a John boat

slorider 10-16-2014 07:57 AM

Got the same truck and it gets 13 empty or pulling a 38 ft boat. 2013

RiReuter 10-16-2014 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by slorider (Post 4204009)
Got the same truck and it gets 13 empty or pulling a 38 ft boat. 2013

You only get 13 mpg in a 2013 6.7L? What gear ratio? I thought they did better than that.

Quinlan 10-16-2014 06:55 PM

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Here is what you NEED. maybe over kill- BUT it sure turns Heads lol

RiReuter 10-16-2014 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4204342)
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Here is what you NEED. maybe over kill- BUT it sure turns Heads lol

That is a nice ride, wouldn't fit in my garage...

nailit 10-16-2014 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by slorider (Post 4204009)
Got the same truck and it gets 13 empty or pulling a 38 ft boat. 2013

really 13 empty?? Mine is a 2012 but if I keep it low 70's, I can get 19-20. 80 still gets 18mpg on comp read.
I am averaging 17.5 commuting into New Orleans with traffic.
Havent towed boat yet, but cant wait, this thing is zippy!

24OL4NOW 10-20-2014 09:06 AM

Towed my 33 to ozarks this past weekend with friends 13 6.7, about 300 miles, you will love it! Averaged 13 mpg with load, way home about 17.5 going close to 80 whole time.

kennyo 10-22-2014 12:56 PM

6.7 is an awesome combo. 2013 450 dually pulls my 33 around 13mpg.... If it got 18-19 I'd buy one!

nailit 10-25-2014 05:29 PM

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From today!! Boat ran good, best yet with B1 labbed by bblades. 79 degree, 40 humidity, 1 ft chop, 66.3mph. Realized my trim indicators were a lil off, so I matched up the lil rooster tails and squeezed another 1mph out! Oh, just me and 1/2 fuel

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j21black 10-29-2014 06:16 PM

[QUOTE Havent towed it yet, but cant wait, this thing is a beast and 19-20 mpg on hwy!![/QUOTE]

If you want to improve on it, tune it...or so I've heard.... :-)

nailit 10-30-2014 09:22 PM


Originally Posted by j21black (Post 4211105)
[QUOTE Havent towed it yet, but cant wait, this thing is a beast and 19-20 mpg on hwy!!

If you want to improve on it, tune it...or so I've heard.... :-)[/QUOTE]

I havent heard much on tuners for the 6.7s?? Also dont want to void the factory warranty or blow up a motor by trying to get some more hp. Its pretty quick already..

slorider 10-31-2014 07:29 AM

Yep 13 is all I get . Love the truck it has ton of power will pull a house down and has a ton of zip but full mileage sucks. I have a 3.55 rear end in it. What rear end do you guys have in your trucks ?

BajaDan 10-31-2014 07:51 AM

I'm about right where you guys are with 13 towing (7000 lbs) and 18 or a little better in my normal commute. The mpg seemed to keep improving up to about 5000 miles. It has stabilized now and I've got about 7500 miles on it. It is my daily driver and I couldn't be happier. Probably the best all round vehicle I've ever owned. If I had my druthers I would have the large rear seat area of the F150 and take out some of the bed but I imagine that most of these are sold as work trucks and not toy haulers. Still compared to my 11 F150 eco boost it is quieter, has better window down airflow and lower noise (I ride with the windows open a lot), way (way way) more powerful and really is just plain more fun.

Congrats Nailit.

Dan

nailit 10-31-2014 02:30 PM

I just took mine to N. La. and I was travelling 75 for 2/3 of trip and 60-70 during the other 1/3. Averaged 18.5.. Mine has the 3.55 and has 44k miles on it. I did notice when I get more around town driving, its down to 15 and that's driving is cautiously as I am trying to save the tires.. This thing will spin them easily!

its definitely fun to drive and if I fart, I can crack a window and open rear sliding back window and it sucks it right out!!!! LOL

Haven't really pulled the boat on any long trip and since is getting cooler, I don't see that happening till spring.

F-2 Speedy 10-31-2014 02:49 PM

power rear slider is a must, I have it on both of mine

Captain YARRR 10-31-2014 03:14 PM

I got to say, I'm a little doubtful of some of these numbers when you give them a hand calculated reality check:

http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-250_super_duty

You can adjust based on which engine you're talking about but sure as hell nobody is getting 19-20 MPG on average.

I think a lot of people suffer from "I get 18 MPG" because they got it once, right after resetting the computer driving over flat ground at 50 MPH.

nailit 10-31-2014 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by Captain YARRR (Post 4212119)
I got to say, I'm a little doubtful of some of these numbers when you give them a hand calculated reality check:

http://www.fuelly.com/car/ford/f-250_super_duty

You can adjust based on which engine you're talking about but sure as hell nobody is getting 19-20 MPG on average.

I think a lot of people suffer from "I get 18 MPG" because they got it once, right after resetting the computer driving over flat ground at 50 MPH.

I checked mine against the computer on this trip. it was .7mpg over hand calculated several times as I drove almost 800 miles driving from New Orleans to Shreveport and back.
ok, so your right, I was actually getting 17.8 :-)

I havent really calculated the commute.. my problem is that if I drive like a paw paw, i do well, but I normally drive a lil more aggressive.. 78 in a 70 and usually 7 or 8 over any speed limit.

oh, that website is pretty cool.
Is anyone getting better mpg with a tuner?? Not too concerned as my fuel is paid by co.

Captain YARRR 10-31-2014 05:27 PM

That's kinda my point, one trip where you're maintaining a constant speed compared to a normal commute day, no way ppl are "getting" 18 MPG. An occasional high MPG is great, but rarely does it average out. My EcoBoost has seen 18-19 on highway trips in the winter, but that's not an accurate representation of the average.

j21black 10-31-2014 06:06 PM

The lie-o-meter on my dash (6.4L) has never been correct.......

Best MPG I ever saw on a trip was 22.3 MPG 6.4L (hand calculated) through the mountains on I-40 (with stock 18" wheels) Since I've upgraded to 20" wheels, I am in the 16-18 range on trips, and I've never checked it while towing...I don't want to know!!!! I am at almost 100k with only 2 issues on the truck, failed transmission temp sensor (28k) warranty claim, and a burnt up alternator (90K) on my dime.....

I know Spartan and H&S make tunes for the 6.7L - I have a family member who runs an H&S on his.....I wouldn't be worried about warranty issues, unless you are going to beat the crap out of it everywhere you go, and I have heard Spartan inserts info into the computer tracking history when returning to stock so it looks like regens (if that's what they call it on urea exhausts) have been occurring...

The "Boss" will not let me upgrade to a 6.7 yet....

BajaDan 11-03-2014 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by Captain YARRR (Post 4212182)
That's kinda my point, one trip where you're maintaining a constant speed compared to a normal commute day, no way ppl are "getting" 18 MPG. An occasional high MPG is great, but rarely does it average out. My EcoBoost has seen 18-19 on highway trips in the winter, but that's not an accurate representation of the average.

That is interesting. Before the 6.7 I had a 2011 Eco Boost. Loved the truck. I hardly ever saw above 17.5 with it though and in the winter it was worse. I blamed that on cold tires and increased rolling resistance. I always thought the eco part of Eco Boost was stretching it, the boost part was spot on though. It was a beast. Whoever designed oil filter and drain location should be shot on sight however.

My dashboard gauge (for fuel consumption) is spot on (to the tenth anyway which is the accuracy of the gauge). If I go to the same station and the same pump and park in the same orientation so that the tank is sitting in the same position, then I get very accurate comsumption readings. I can put a gallon more or less in the tank depending on whether the truck is oriented slightly up hill or down. Heck, the odometer is probably not that accurate.

Now on the 496 in the boat, fuel consumption is not measured but calculated (which it may be on the 6.7 also) from injector opening times and rpm. In that case the boat actually uses 2-3 gallons more on 50 consumed than reported by the Smartcraft instrumentation.

At the end of the day it really doesn't matter, just so long you know your equipment.

The problem with the diesel is not 17 or 18 or 19 mpg, the problem is the tax structure that puts diesel at $0.50+ per gallon more than the more expensive to produce 87 octane gas.

Dan

nailit 11-03-2014 07:13 PM

Well, price comparison on fuel price vs mpg was a net compared to to my jeep with 35s jacked up hitting 14.5 to 15mpg.
Although this truck is a lot quicker than my lil 4dr wrangler!!!

Captain YARRR 11-03-2014 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by BajaDan (Post 4213352)
That is interesting. Before the 6.7 I had a 2011 Eco Boost. Loved the truck. I hardly ever saw above 17.5 with it though and in the winter it was worse. I blamed that on cold tires and increased rolling resistance. I always thought the eco part of Eco Boost was stretching it, the boost part was spot on though. It was a beast. Whoever designed oil filter and drain location should be shot on sight however.

My dashboard gauge (for fuel consumption) is spot on (to the tenth anyway which is the accuracy of the gauge). If I go to the same station and the same pump and park in the same orientation so that the tank is sitting in the same position, then I get very accurate comsumption readings. I can put a gallon more or less in the tank depending on whether the truck is oriented slightly up hill or down. Heck, the odometer is probably not that accurate.

Now on the 496 in the boat, fuel consumption is not measured but calculated (which it may be on the 6.7 also) from injector opening times and rpm. In that case the boat actually uses 2-3 gallons more on 50 consumed than reported by the Smartcraft instrumentation.

At the end of the day it really doesn't matter, just so long you know your equipment.

The problem with the diesel is not 17 or 18 or 19 mpg, the problem is the tax structure that puts diesel at $0.50+ per gallon more than the more expensive to produce 87 octane gas.

Dan

You're pretty right on with everything here. When I say winter, I guess I mean the days we get in Texas between 40 and 70. Anything colder and yes it dramatically drops. Makes no sense, you'd always think turbos would love the cold.


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