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92nsx 05-11-2016 08:44 AM

33 Outlaw ground wires
 
Im sure it is a long shot, but will try.

Above each engine in the wiring harness's there is a ground wire cluster that is crimped together. There is a main 8 or 10 gauge wire then 3 or 4 smaller 12 or 14 gauge wires all crimped together and wrapped in tape. I know the 8 or 10 gauge wire goes to the distribution block on the transom.

My question is what are the other 3 or 4 smaller gauge wires running to?

1 is for the bilge blowers I believe but no idea what the others are for.

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...psqlt25xn2.jpg

F-2 Speedy 05-11-2016 08:51 AM

They ground on the studs on the bell housing, one on each side of the blocks, should also have a ground on each inner transom plate

GLENAMY 242SS 05-11-2016 09:09 AM

starts at engine ground Large (rear of engine) to:
Plug (dash ground) Large
Alternator Large
Starter solenoid -small
(at least that is what it was on mine.)
Hope this helps you-good luck

92nsx 05-11-2016 09:48 AM

It all helps! Thank you guys! I'll poke my head around more. Maybe there are there and are dangling between the engine and transom some where that I didn't see. Not much room to fit my fat head in there :lolhit:

I didn't notice the 9 pin engine harness ground grounding to it ( I just replaced that), but will double check.

I believe the alternator and starter solenoid grounds to the stud on the engine bell housing, not this "junction" in all the wires.

This junction is located under the gunwale in with all the other wires. Sorry hard to explain without a photo witch I thought I had. Ill get one tonight. I'm 99% sure one of the grounds leads to the the blower. They look to be accessory grounds (like blowers, lights, hour meters, ect.). But the lights also did not ground there unless it dose some sort of loop. Photo is worth a million words witch I will get.

Thank you all again!!!

92nsx 05-11-2016 09:53 AM

Here is the grounds I'm talking about . There is one of these about each engine. The large ground wire(s) comes from the distribution block on the transom, then leads to the other engine, where they are all crimped together again, then continues to lead to the power panel in the cabin.

Will update first post also

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...psqlt25xn2.jpg

US1 Fountain 05-11-2016 11:00 AM

You should also have a larger battery ground cable going directly from 1 motor to the other.

GLENAMY 242SS 05-11-2016 11:13 AM

My post was from the engine side of the 9 pin plug. I did not like that factory set up when re-wiring my motor, so I added a ground buss and was chasing wires from this for you.

F-2 Speedy 05-11-2016 11:23 AM

This junction is located under the gunwale in with all the other wires ??

what year is the boat, my 2000 had nothing like this, I think someone moved it off the transom where it was originally located, or it could be my some timers kicking in

GLENAMY 242SS 05-11-2016 11:45 AM

Yea, my post was for engine, sorry.
Any chance of getting factory wiring diagram?

92nsx 05-11-2016 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by 33outlawsst (Post 4437767)
This junction is located under the gunwale in with all the other wires ??

what year is the boat, my 2000 had nothing like this, I think someone moved it off the transom where it was originally located, or it could be my some timers kicking in

same year. 2000, 33 with 502's. Same as your old outlaw.

The grounding buss is still on the lower transom. There is 1 behind each engine on the port side of the engine.

There is 8 or 10 AWG wire (in the photo, in the split wire loom, next to the hydro steering filter.) that wire leads down to the ground buss, and then the other 8 or 10 awg wire connects these 2 "bunches" of ground wires together and leads to the switch panel in the cuddy. I just don't know what the smaller 12 or 14 AWG wires go to. 1 of the wires is for the blower, I just have no idea where the other 3 grounds went.

F-2 Speedy 05-11-2016 12:20 PM

I cant see the pic on my work computer, you know the Fed's

92nsx 05-11-2016 12:22 PM

Ill post on other site in refuges

nailit 05-11-2016 08:08 PM

2 Attachment(s)
I have a 98 with 454s but don't have that behind mine. Would have to go look behind engine for them.

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Might be a better view.
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92nsx 05-12-2016 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by nailit (Post 4437951)
I have a 98 with 454s but don't have that behind mine. Would have to go look behind engine for them.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]555226[/ATTACH]

Might be a better view.
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Ya yours is still up in the gunwale on. But it is burred in the wires. There is a 2" split wire loom held up with zip ties right above your tab pumps that houses all the wires and harness. (speaker, trim pump, tab pumps, lights, cabin light, engines, ect. All the wires) . No need to rip into it. Just hoping some one has rewired a 33 and remembers it.

But for future reference the split wire loom running up your transom right behind the letter "N" on your boat and then the same approx location on the transom for the port engine. That should be the black ground wire that is 8 or 10 AWG that leads to/from the grounding bus that is located on the lower transom to this "bunches" of wires.


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