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iaoutlaw 03-09-2018 02:35 PM

New 36 Outlaw
 
Link to the new 36 Outlaw:
What are your guys thoughts?
Like the new accessory buttons just wish they would have put them flat where the old toggle switches were on the 35OL and put a larger display in.
Like the new seats in the 35.. I saw them in the 23 OL at LOTO Shootout this past year and they looked oversized in that boat but they fit nice in the 36.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...03ce3c99b4.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...7a0be4178c.jpg

IGetWet 03-09-2018 03:14 PM

Overall it’s a sharp boat, the outlaws have good lines. Not sure about the seats yet. Yes they should’ve put the buttons down on a separate panel. I feel they just put them on the dash panel because it was too empty with just the simrad there. A couple analog gauges on each side of the simrad would look good imo. Windscreen looks a little tall too. There, I think im
done nit picking. As usual, the price will say the most.

F-2 Speedy 03-09-2018 03:21 PM

the logo is dwarfed by the size of the boat, needs to be bigger....out of 41 pic they show 1/2 an engine......:picard1:

mikebrls 03-09-2018 03:21 PM

I wonder what kind of price there putting on it ?

F-2 Speedy 03-09-2018 03:23 PM

Call Ed Champion..........@ Big Thunder

IGetWet 03-09-2018 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4614996)
the logo is dwarfed by the size of the boat, needs to be bigger....out of 41 pic they show 1/2 an engine......:picard1:

The Baja rigging style must not of changed then, but they gotta save coin somewhere I guess

thisistank 03-09-2018 04:15 PM

Super happy they're building boats. Why are they still building the 36 when they have the 35?

objective first thoughts -

Likes:
* Love the cabin colors, finish and details.
* Love the little details around the dash as well (lit cub holders), stereo position, push button switches, etc.
* Interior finish with the diamond pattern looks very nice and tight. The cut out gunnels is a long time coming and the recessed speakers looks very nice (obviously updated styling ques).
* Carbon fiber touches looks classy.
* Absolutely happy they went with "less is more" with interior colors. The two tone interior is NICE!

Constructive Criticism:

* Hate the seats. They sit too high.
* I'd like to see the carpet out and something like Seadeck or Gatorfloor laid down.
* Not a fan of no gauges...I know glass is all the rage, I just like some gauges.
* I'd like to see a real head (don't know what's in there for a head since they didn't show it).
* Back to the seats, the bases look a bit cheesy and I hope to god they through bolted them and didn't screw them in like they used to.
* For a 36' boat, it sure does look small. I presume it's the way they have a large cockpit that sits way forward or maybe it's the angle of the photos or the colors, etc. Just looks short. But whatever.


Over-all, I like it a lot.

F-2 Speedy 03-09-2018 04:30 PM

Looks like a 35 with a 2 ft swim deck, OAL 37.1 ?
  • Length: 37' 1"
  • Beam: 8' 6"
  • Dry Weight: 9300
  • Draft: 40"
  • Dead rise : 24 Degrees
  • Fuel Capacity: 168 gallons

IGetWet 03-09-2018 05:17 PM

I think they have to include the swim platform in the loa now. That’s why there’s 26 and 27 OLs as well.

And yea, if seats were lower they could cut down the windscreen a bit too.

iaoutlaw 03-09-2018 06:08 PM

The 35 and 36 are the same hull just includes the swim platform in LOA also I think there’s some marketing going on to promote the “return of Baja”.
As far as price this boat with the 520’s is listed at Day’s boat sales for:
$1759 per month, 5.99 apr, 240 Months, $30,000 down, so if you put that in a calculator it’s close to $275,000 out the door including fees, transportation etc.

JaayTeee 03-09-2018 11:12 PM

The front seats are an improvement over the previous versions from the fountain built boats...honestly, they looked like a high school shop project... now they need to work on the engine hatch, and how about at least a speedo and tach’s, the rest of it looks fine

Keith Atlanta 03-10-2018 07:54 AM

Wait, was the 35 always left hand throttle or is that a Fountain addition?

thisistank 03-10-2018 08:43 AM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4615124)
Wait, was the 35 always left hand throttle or is that a Fountain addition?

HOLE-E-F*CK! I just noticed that...That sh!t is LAME!!! HATE IT.

F-2 Speedy 03-10-2018 08:46 AM

I think all the 35's have a split console.......my bud's 2010 does

JaayTeee 03-10-2018 08:54 AM

30’s, 35’s and 40’s have split throttle/ shifters

ttuton 03-10-2018 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4615139)
HOLE-E-F*CK! I just noticed that...That sh!t is LAME!!! HATE IT.

shifters are on the left and throttles on the right.

JaayTeee 03-10-2018 10:20 AM

Looks like they’re done with the 30 and the open bows too.

thisistank 03-10-2018 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by ttuton (Post 4615145)


shifters are on the left and throttles on the right.

LOL, ok that makes more sense. Early morning, I should really pay a little more attention to the photos:rolleyes:

Keith Atlanta 03-10-2018 11:16 AM

Was it always this way on the newer Bajas from Ohio?

Or was this a Baja by Fountian thing?!

JaayTeee 03-10-2018 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4615165)
Was it always this way on the newer Bajas from Ohio?

Or was this a Baja by Fountian thing?!

it was that way from the beginning

92nsx 03-12-2018 09:12 AM

My thoughts that are worth less then 2 cents
I'm happy to see the 35 back. I personally like the lay out . Cabin is a usable size and a big cockpit. I have both a 30 and 33 in my Garage and compared apples to apples. 35 is the perfect mix of the 2 wile not moving up to a 38 or 40 foot boat.
2 different fonts of "Baja" on the boat :whistle:. Notice the embroidery on the back of the seats is the original Baja font wile the all the rest is the new style font used in N.C. (cabin, glove box, side)...
I would like it better if they stuck with the original numbering system and call it a 35.
1 Simrad in the entire dash? Give me at least a couple analog gauges. 2 techs at a min.
Engine hatch needs some design. Not all white.

My guess it will be $300k.

rak rua 03-12-2018 09:44 AM

Tough crowd.
I think it looks pretty damn nice, I'd be happy to own it. :)
Personally, I prefer a few gauges Vs Garmin displays and front seats look a bit high in the pictures, may look different seeing the real thing.

If I recall correctly, there was a new 35' with 496's sold to a guy on here late last year. Predominantly red and white colors and it was advertised at 189k which sounded sensible to me. I don't know what the Merc Racing engines add to that but I still think it's a nice looking boat

RR



30outlaw 03-13-2018 01:51 PM

not bad, like the seats just not the diamond pattern, and the dash looks goofy.... need a bigger display and drop the switches down. I have seen a few newer baja's and the rigging is night and day nicer from the day they left ohio.. wish my 08 30OL looked as good as some of the newer ones...

92nsx 03-14-2018 07:29 AM

Bill Day has the boat at his dealership in Ky. Asking price is 249,500 with 520's. He is looking at adding 2 smartcraft gauges (one on each side of the Simrad) . Here they were doing some photoshipping and getting feedback on the idea.

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...85&oe=5B398238

iaoutlaw 03-14-2018 08:44 AM

Looks so much better with the gauges and I'm sure whoever buys the boat will enjoy being able to see the tach and other info for each engine. Still prefer a large display with the accessory buttons down below
$265K with trailer isn't bad for a boat with blue motors in it.

Tractionless 03-19-2018 04:20 PM

I could never operate a boat with split trans/throttles. Many times I put it in gear, blip the throttle and take it out once its back at idle all without taking my hand off the wheel. I cant imagine having to go back in forth to the wheel with both hands.

nailit 03-19-2018 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Tractionless (Post 4616867)
I could never operate a boat with split trans/throttles. Many times I put it in gear, blip the throttle and take it out once its back at idle all without taking my hand off the wheel. I cant imagine having to go back in forth to the wheel with both hands.

I might actually like it.. Would beat when I have grabbed the throttle to take it out of reverse couple times and nailit!! Always have to make sure I am paying attention to my hand placement when not looking and just feeling around when docking.

iaoutlaw 03-20-2018 08:21 AM

I've heard that docking is a lot easier especially backing. Turn around and stand in the doorway and shift with your left hand. Glad to see this one sold and they have another one with 540's on order. I'd like to have a few options to choose from when I upgrade in 10 years.lol
Link to the one on order:

MR.HAPPY 04-25-2018 04:38 PM

Sad to see that this is the new 36 Outlaw IMO...
Why didn't they use the old 36 hull that rode great & just use the new materials that are available now to make it better & make it a stepped hull???
The 35 hull rides like **** in the rough waters according to the people I talked to last year that owned them at LOTO.
I was looking at one that was for sale there at LOTO & 2 different current owners of 35s talked the Wife & I out of it because of ride & lack of performance out of the hull...

92nsx 04-26-2018 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by MR.HAPPY (Post 4623333)
& make it a stepped hull???

If you want a stepped hull, you can order/build a Fountain or Donzi. If you want a straight hull you can order a Baja. Reggie has stated that several times. They are all built down the same line with the same people same material. Your choice on stepped hull or not. They still have the Donzi and Fountain go fast boat molds, just don't advertise it. Also I'm not 100% sure the 33 or 36 Outlaw molds are around. But some reason I swear I saw a photo years ago fomr the fountain factory that had a mold labeled "36" in the back ground . ( I could be wrong on this tho would need to consult my Bucyrus expert).

In my opinion the new 36 was a "feeler" boat to see if it would sell in today's market .. And will, Bill Day sold it in 2 weeks with snow on the ground!!! So there is a market for it.


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