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Anyone looking at the 29 outlaw with twin 575's???
That has to be a real yummy combo
Twin 575 sc's in a 29 outlaw!! Imagine the poor bastards face in the top gun when a "little baja" kicks the piss out of em for over 100 grand less. Jason PS anyone have a price on this combo? Jason |
Waz up J-L. That sounds pretty tight. I have thought alot about finding a 29 and putting big power behind it. No funds right now, but you never know about the future. I thought two 600hp NA 509's would be pretty damn neat. That or build two 502 blower motors for it. What kind of speeds are these guys getting, how much dough and where is it??
Good to seeya down here in Baja land, how's your pig, By the way, your truck looks peachy.....:D |
Wow sounds like a cool setup, the Baja catalog only shows twin 500's as the biggest, but there c ustom shop will do most anything!!!! if you have the money
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they list 575's in 2002 brochure,
i think the hull can handle it, i've been in similar sized boats, not going to mention names, that handled very poor, this boat doesn't, i doub't nobody would want to spend the $$$ for the motor upgrade though. j.t. |
When I visited the factory a few years ago, Baja was in the process of building a few "blank boats". These boats were going out to people who wanted to install their own power. Baja offers no hull warrantee when the customer installs his own power.
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That sounds great, but no warranty could = big trouble. Anything can be done for the right price....:D
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It IS listed in the brochure in the back under the specs part.
Max power the 29 Outlaw can have from Baja factory is twin 575 sc's propped right that thing must be able to blow past I swear anything Guys they put these motors in the 40 outlaw as twins, Plus the 40 footer has ammenities that the 29 does not. Dude this thing with twin 575's has to freakin be a major bullet. imagine 1150 HP in something around what 8000 LBS? maybe less? 7000 LBS? prop the ***** right and you have well over 100 MPH at your finger tips with out a doubt. that is the reason for the post, Just seeing if anyone actually has seen one or better yet bought one with those engines. What speeds does the twin HP 500's or 500 efi's pull down ? Think about it If a standard fountain 35 with twin HP 500's can get mid 80's and low to mid 90's with the 575's this 29 outlaw would be able to just blow by it for about 150 thou less MUHAHAHAHAHA nothing like beating the living snot out of someone that spend like 2 morgage payments more than you Sometimes Baja sneaks something out that is just a missle in baja clothing Jason |
I don't think it would be quite as fast as you think. There's a guy out there getting 76-77 on GPS with 496HO's. Step up to 500EFI's and you'll proably see low 80s. With 575's, probably high 80's, maybe 90.
I love Bajas, but they definitely are NOT the most efficient hull out there. |
then those boats are propped to slow it down big time.
there is absolutely no reason for twin 575's not to be able to hit 100 + in such a small boat like that. The factory must prop it low to prevent insurance rates to go ballistic, tell the insurance administration yeah 80 mph but we ALL change props to see what runs better on what application. something like that could turn up to Im guessing 32 or so pitch with some slip at 6000 RPM's or even 5500 you should be reaching 100+ with it. Power to weight ratio is super low in this. granted I understand hydrodynamics and a fountain hull is more vented and able to take same power and move faster but still pound for pound that weight loss should be able to overcome some inefficiency in the hull design Jason |
ric232 has hit the nail right on the head!
my boat with carbed 500's has at best ran 84.6 on gps. ran a guy with a 29 w/385 procharged, these produce approx. the same amount of hp as the 575 does, he was a little faster, but not 100mph, ( radar claimed 86) i ran a 2001 35 fountain with 500efi's this year, down at LOTO, ran for about 3 miles, it was a draw, the owner claimed we were going 88, ( do you see what i'm getting at) i doubt 575's will make at 35 fountain run as fast as they claim either, most boat tests done in magazines are not done in real life conditions, i.e. gear, coolers, people, full of fuel, and usaully in salt water, so results are usually less than published. like i said earlier in this thread, i drove another make of boat my dealer sells 30 ft, step hull, 500 efi's, this was on very smooth water, the boat may have been 3 or 4 mph faster, but it had very poor handling characteristic's the boat didn't like to go straight? bottom line is: in real life situations, those 3 to 4 mph would be lost, due to having to drive it more coservatively, unless you have a death wish. the key to going fast is, being able to keep the thing in some type of control. the 29 is a "controllable" boat. just my .02 jt |
My 1994 32' Baja does lower 80's with low boost and non lab finished props. Engines dyno'd at about 550Hp. I got another 50-100 Hp each if I want it. Boat weighs about 7500 dry.
Boat has a total of 350 hours with 65 on engines. No wear on the hull and stringers and transom are solid! Boat handles great in the rough stuff. I kicked some major booty in my last poker run in 3-5 seas. I love to sneak up on those high priced @#$%. No fancy graphics, just performance. They really get interested in Baja's after that. Here's my website: www.geocities.com/bajalion Some may be able to beat me, but not even close when considering price. My saying is "If you see my transom, "NUFF SAID". If I see yours you paid too much" |
Hey Bajalion, Dude,
I likey likey the engines man!!! VERY NICE! I can imagine you have alot of HP your hiding that your not getting. Cool though cause it is like your ace in the hole, secret weapon someone pisses you off, Boop, change pulley's now your up for a azzkickin ride Jason |
jt29olhp500s
Spine is one of them..... |
bajalion,
you are correct:D :D |
Yeah J, I think 100 is pretty optimistic. It takes big power to get any vee into 100. You are going to hit a wall at some point, my boat is at about 80. I think 90 with 1200hp is reachable. NOW THAT........WOULD BE AWESOME!!!!!
I swear I would stop throwing wrenches if I had a 90mph 29 OUtlaw......:D ;) How's your ride doing?? |
coming along, one engine was put on dyno and got clean bill of health and we beat it on the dyno pretty good.
got new holley carbs (800's off of HP500's) those will go on and engine #2 is going to dyno end of Jan or beginning of Feb to get tested and get a clean bill of health. once that is done it is time to dump them in right at the beginning of April and see if this tub will hold its own this summer. Before I put engines back in, taking the boat to Ike and have him go over every F**ing thing on it, from fuel sender to steering, tabs, trim for the drives, EVERYTHING cause Im totally sick of this and want this douche bag pig to run and run her ass off. no more tool tossing for this guy. This thing is going to RUN (then it is time to get it all painted up and pretty) that is later on though Jason Hey how many rachets did you buy last year im at 4 Jason |
4???...not bad....:D :D
I actually had a pretty trouble free summer. Aside from an impellar and housing, and a few little knick knacks, that was about it. I spent all winter last year building and rigging, so I got all my temper tantrums out of the way.......HAHAHAHAAAA. I did send a cheap little hand held rivet gun thru my garage wall though. That left a mark. Now that I have alot of Crafstman stuff I need to be careful of how far I throw things, but not how hard....you know, the life time warranty thing;) :D Get that mule up and on the go, you certainly deserve it!! I decided not to put a blower on this year because of the 9.9:1 compression I am running. I did not want to risk melting this thing. I really enjoyed 520hp turnkey last year, so I just am probably going to go with some head and cam changes, see if I can pick up another 70-80 ponies. Good call on your part having the Ike guy give the entire rig a good going over. Catch ya on the flip side.......and a little rocksalt spread at about 10 lbs/sq/ft in the old engine builders front yard would make for an interesting spring......HeHeHe....... Take 'er slllooowwwwww.........A4 |
By the way, make that 10 lbs/1000 sq ft.........10 per foot might be a little obvious.....:D :D :D
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Originally Posted by Jayl13
(Post 450340)
It IS listed in the brochure in the back under the specs part.
Max power the 29 Outlaw can have from Baja factory is twin 575 sc's propped right that thing must be able to blow past I swear anything Guys they put these motors in the 40 outlaw as twins, Plus the 40 footer has ammenities that the 29 does not. Dude this thing with twin 575's has to freakin be a major bullet. imagine 1150 HP in something around what 8000 LBS? maybe less? 7000 LBS? prop the ***** right and you have well over 100 MPH at your finger tips with out a doubt. that is the reason for the post, Just seeing if anyone actually has seen one or better yet bought one with those engines. What speeds does the twin HP 500's or 500 efi's pull down ? Think about it If a standard fountain 35 with twin HP 500's can get mid 80's and low to mid 90's with the 575's this 29 outlaw would be able to just blow by it for about 150 thou less MUHAHAHAHAHA nothing like beating the living snot out of someone that spend like 2 morgage payments more than you Sometimes Baja sneaks something out that is just a missle in baja clothing Jason |
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