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Ironmanwb 02-04-2004 09:55 AM

Props for a 302 ???
 
Well my 302 is still at the factory getting fixed but I really need to re-prop it. Where is the best place to get props. Would like a set of 4 blades

Heres my boat specs

2001 302
Stock 3 blade props turning about 5100 rpms with no trim

454 mag mpi's bravo 1

I would like some more speed of course but what I really want are props that are not going to break loose so easily. Any help would be great.

BajaBennett 02-05-2004 06:48 AM

Ironmanwb

I am running Bravo I's (26P), four blade, on my 302 and I am very happy with them.

Dail

Ironmanwb 02-05-2004 02:14 PM

Dail,

Do you have the same engines ect. I just want to make sure I buy the correct prop. Also what brand of prop did you buy?

Thanks

Notched_Baja 02-05-2004 09:23 PM

I have a set of 23p Hydromtive Q-4's in perfect condition.

Shooter 02-06-2004 07:14 AM

If you want the most speed, stick with the Mirage Plus. I have had mine worked by Houston Prop. I've been considering putting Bravo's on, but it will cost you about 3-5 mph I have been told. I don't have too much of a problem planing out or the nose being carried with the extra cupping Houston added. BTW - I have 502's with 25 pitch before labbing was done to them.

You will definately have a better cruise speed and gph numbers, but you will lose speed compared to 3-blade.

No offense to notched, but Hydromotives are not the prop for a Baja. Bajas like bow lift - just speaking from my exerpience with the three I have owned.

Notched_Baja 02-07-2004 05:53 AM

Bravo's and Hydromotives ran the same on mine.
These also have diffuser rings. You will loose about 2mph from top end but gain it everywhere else. You would need to be spinning 24p three blades in the 5200 range to handle the extra diameter of the four blade 23's.

HOUSTONPROP 02-08-2004 04:25 AM

IRONMANWB
 
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ALL good advice from the others who know,but your three blade props can be customized to work great and not blow out like they are ,you need to send them in and have the ACCLERATOR design which should pickup about 3 mph or using four blades will drop your speed but improve in other areas such as handling.

here is a picture of our ACCLERATOR DESIGN,what we do is re work your existing props,Thanks Darin >281-580-PROP(7767);)

Shooter 02-13-2004 01:15 PM

Hi,

I switched to a Bravo on my last boat, a Shooter, and then again I also addeda blown 454.

What speed did you get witht the 25's and then with the Bravo 26's.

I like the bravos but this tubby Baja needs all the help it can get.

29Fever 02-13-2004 02:20 PM

Ironmanwb,

What pitch are you turning now? 23"? 24"?

Ironmanwb 02-13-2004 04:19 PM

I 'm not really sure they are the stock props I think they are 24 pitch 3 blade mirages

HOUSTONPROP 02-14-2004 10:29 PM

ironmanwb
 
the four blade props come in pitch increments or 22,24,26,28 and so on the the blade props like the mirages prop come in 19,21,23,25,27 and so on ,

hope this helps,Darin

inpropsicated 02-22-2004 07:17 AM

Can somebody explain to me what is meant when the props blow out? I have heard of flattening but never blown out.

Shooter 02-22-2004 07:54 AM

Blow out is when you get on the throttles too fast an they suck air into them. RPM will increase but the boat will shuuder and set back into the water. You usually have to go back down to almost idle to let them "hook up" again.

You should almost never see this with the 4 blades. I have three blades and I have to ease onto plane. Usually at about half to plane I can mash down on the sticks.

Darin added more cup to my Mirage Plus's improving them even more. The plain Mirage's just plane (or not plane) suck in this regard.

Ironmanwb 02-22-2004 03:35 PM

shooter

Do you have the ACCLERATOR DESIGN from darin with the extra cupping? I am looking for better hook-up and some top end but what I most concerned with is blowouts when trying to plane. I have to be almost on plane before I can hit the sticks. Can you also tell me the results that you got out of your props after darin reworked them. Let me know what boat and power your runnig.

thanks

Shooter 02-22-2004 04:03 PM

Hi,

No, regular lab finishing, with no offense to Darin - he IS the expert, that is the majority of the difference over a stock prop. Accelerator is a tweak on top of that IMHO. I would have gotten it (they look cool), but mine were just done last year - thay are 25's thinned, cup added, and satin finsihed. You will always blow out a 3-blade prop with BB's.

I definately have more grip out of the hole and in high speed turns, but I can blow them out if I try to. Top end, definately run stronger, but never did anything scientific. My conditions and weights vary alot each time I go out. I run strong mid-70's with no BS. Baja's are not top-speed animals again IMHO.

Mine are actually for sale in the parts section for 750 bucks - I'm leaning towards 4-blades just because I do more cruising. 3-blade, 3mph more top end, 4-blade 3-5mph better cruise.

BTW - 502 mags, stock for now. Will probably put the revolution manifolds on in the spring and some shiny flame arrestors...oooooh SHINY!


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