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baja36ft 12-06-2004 10:45 AM

speed on a 36 outlaw
 
what kind of speed are you guys getting with a 36 outlaw? And what kind of prop?

JaayTeee 12-06-2004 10:54 AM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
Need more info.......what power?????, extension boxes???, etc.

baja36ft 12-06-2004 11:01 AM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
no boxes,hp 500's or 525's

JaayTeee 12-06-2004 11:31 AM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
HP500's: 72-74

525's, maybe a couple more ????

( fresh water)

Props ? what drive ratio ?

jt

Smitty 12-06-2004 01:21 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
I would say around 70. The 36 is a heavy boat. A 33 will run around 72-73 with HP500's

I just bought a 36 so in a few months i'll tell you how fast it will go with around 1500 total HP.

mike0311 12-06-2004 06:50 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
Bigwavz...I disagree with you on the speed of the 33', unless we are talking about older models. I have an 03 33' with 496HO's and I can run 75MPH GPS. I would think with 500's it should be 77-78MPH

Smitty 12-07-2004 08:49 AM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
Mike,
I'll agree with you if it is a newer model. Baja did raise the X on later models. We still don't know what year we are dealing with here, but my guess would be an older one.

Maybe baja36ft will get back in here and let us all know.

P.S. Mike is your speed verified by GPS??

BURNSMAZZ 12-07-2004 09:50 AM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
I read these posts a lot and some guys run in salt ,some in fresh water.If you run in salt you're going to be faster,so some of these numbers aren't really going to matter to a fresh water guy. .02

Smitty 12-07-2004 12:45 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
I just noticed in another post that his boat is a 1999 36 foot Outlaw. I stand on my original numbers quoted.

baja36ft 12-07-2004 12:46 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
A 99 or 2001 outlaw in salt water no boxes 1.50 out drive with 500's or 525's

BURNSMAZZ 12-07-2004 12:49 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
525's 75-77,500's 73-75.

baja36ft 12-07-2004 12:53 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
I am doing 74.8 on gps was wondering if that was right? thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

JaayTeee 12-07-2004 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by baja36ft
I am doing 74.8 on gps was wondering if that was right? thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!


I'll stand on my original #'s too :D :D :D


jt

mike0311 12-07-2004 05:58 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
I am in agreement with everyone with the added information. I believe the 99 is a bit slower. I only ran with a GPS a few times but my best was 75.1 MPH and I do run in salt water. I think there may be a little more there as I do hit the rev limiters. I have been able to hit 80 on the Speedo which I enjoy when I have newbies onboard. I don't educate them on the difference between GPS and Speedo :) Bigwavz...are you running a Whipple?

Dock Holiday 12-07-2004 06:10 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 

Originally Posted by baja36ft
what kind of speed are you guys getting with a 36 outlaw? And what kind of prop?

2002 model, 500 EFI's completely stock with Bravo 4-blade labbed 26 pitch props.

Fresh water, 5200 RPM the best we have seen on GPS is 74 MPH.

It will run 71 to 72 almost any time except in flat water.

The boat is really heavy, we have almost every option including A/C, plus a ton of accessories, all my wife's stuff, fuel + people and stuff.

When you factor in the weight, handing, ride, room (cockpit & cuddy) and safety it is not too bad for a true deep vee boat!

Hope this helps!

Drill It 12-07-2004 09:44 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 

Originally Posted by Bigwavz
I would say around 70. The 36 is a heavy boat. A 33 will run around 72-73 with HP500's

I just bought a 36 so in a few months i'll tell you how fast it will go with around 1500 total HP.

I have a 99 36 with twin 605 ci. John Lingenfelter built 750hp engines. I am running Imco Extreme Sc drives that are 2 1/2 inches shorter than stock on Land & Sea 8" extension boxes with Herring 6-Blades. Best speed to date is 95 GOS and 96 speedo in fresh water (Lake Huron). This was done in September on a 72 degree day with a two foot shop. The boat will run 92 in dead flat water. Let me know how yours runs with the whipples. I am curious to see what kind of speed you get out of it. It took me a few years to dial mine in to where I am today.

BURNSMAZZ 12-08-2004 04:25 AM

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Hey Drill It do you ever run around the Lake St. Clair area? I would like to hear those motors,they must have some serious thump to them! :woohoo:

Drill It 12-08-2004 12:19 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 
I do most of my boating in Port Huron but I do get down that way a few times a year. Do you also have a 36?

Drill It

BURNSMAZZ 12-08-2004 01:02 PM

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I've got a 33'.I thought you were from this area,how did you get hooked up with Lingenfelter?You don't see too many people running his stuff.How do they run? Do they idle good around the docks? Can you tape record the way they sound so I can listen to them in the shower in the morning. :D

Steve A.K.A RAMPAGE 12-08-2004 02:41 PM

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1999 36' HP 500 EFI's with extension boxes...
26P Labbed Bravo 1's [email protected] to date
23P Mirage plus [email protected] to date
Both were with full load of fuel and 2 peeps
Steve

Steel Outlawed 12-08-2004 03:37 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 

Originally Posted by Dock Holiday
2002 model, 500 EFI's completely stock with Bravo 4-blade labbed 26 pitch props.

Fresh water, 5200 RPM the best we have seen on GPS is 74 MPH.

It will run 71 to 72 almost any time except in flat water.

The boat is really heavy, we have almost every option including A/C, plus a ton of accessories, all my wife's stuff, fuel + people and stuff.

When you factor in the weight, handing, ride, room (cockpit & cuddy) and safety it is not too bad for a true deep vee boat!

Hope this helps!


Do I classify as people or stuff?

Smitty 12-08-2004 10:06 PM

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Drill It--
I'll be happy to get to the upper 80's I have 1.36 ratio drives which I think will run slower. I do not have the cash to go with shorter drives or boxes which will definitely help. I will certainly post up some numbers once I splash it this spring. I am running Whipples at 9 lbs boost. If I get close to 90 I will be very very happy. Like I have said above the 36 is a heavy boat and I talk real numbers with a good load of fuel and people and full coolers etc.
I run in Lake Michigan around Chicago which is cold fresh water.

Drill It 12-14-2004 08:21 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 

Originally Posted by Bigwavz
Drill It--
I'll be happy to get to the upper 80's I have 1.36 ratio drives which I think will run slower. I do not have the cash to go with shorter drives or boxes which will definitely help. I will certainly post up some numbers once I splash it this spring. I am running Whipples at 9 lbs boost. If I get close to 90 I will be very very happy. Like I have said above the 36 is a heavy boat and I talk real numbers with a good load of fuel and people and full coolers etc.
I run in Lake Michigan around Chicago which is cold fresh water.

Bigwavz,
Good Luck. You are correct that you will probably be around the high 80's.You are also correct that the 1.36's will be slower than the 1.5's. When I first ran the boat it had 1.36's and it was slower. Before I made the changes to the shorter drives and the 6 blades I was running about 88 to 90. The shorter drives helped but they were only a benefit with the 6 blades. With my 30 pitch 4 blades I could only run about 86 even with the shorter drives. The props were really slipping because they were so high. The numbers I talked about before were with a 1/2 to 3/4 tank of fuel and 3-4 people. I too run in cold fresh water in lower Lake Huron. The only option I don't have is air. I have weighed the boat with about 80 gallons of fuel and all of my regular running gear (anchor,life jackets, towels, tools, full fridge, ect.) and it weighed 9300 pounds. Keep in touch once spring roles around. If you have any questions of what I have done I would be happy to help you out. These are hard boats to get to run fast.

Drill It 12-14-2004 08:27 PM

Re: speed on a 36 outlaw
 

Originally Posted by BURNSMAZZ
I've got a 33'.I thought you were from this area,how did you get hooked up with Lingenfelter?You don't see too many people running his stuff.How do they run? Do they idle good around the docks? Can you tape record the way they sound so I can listen to them in the shower in the morning. :D

Burnsmazz,
A couple of years prior to buying the boat I had Lingenfelter do a motor for my car. At the time I was looking thru his catalog and saw that he built other motors. As far as running they have been great. Depending on the water they will turn anywhere from 5600 to 6000 rpm. They idle awesome. Out of gear they idle about 1050 and in gear around 700 rpm. They never stall or sputter around the docks. I have been really happy with them. Maybe next spring I can hang a microphone off the transom and get you some great sounds.

articfriends 10-09-2011 09:41 AM

Heres our 95 mph 36 Baja, wasn't making this **** up:evilb:, Smitty

offshorexcursion 03-26-2012 10:42 PM

Wish we could get a hold of him and find out how those drives hold up to the 6 blades? I am in search of new props and Herings seem to be the fastest!


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