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BajaFresh 12-14-2004 06:21 PM

30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
Just got the new Powerboat mag in the mail today and after having lunch with Mike Nordskog on Saturday (while wearing a Hot Boat Mag T-shirt! :eek: ) figured I 'd better read it right away.

Nice test on the 30 Outlaw with 496 HO's and Bravos (also on the cover). Boy, I sure do like this boat a lot.

It seams a little pricey though at $165K. Especially when looking at the new Cigarette 30 T/S Vice with same motors and XR's @ $195K. I wonder how much they really sell for at the dealers. I know they wheel and deal but how much less will they sell one for?

Steel Outlawed 12-14-2004 08:55 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
I think you can buy a 04 with HO's loaded with a triple axle trailer for about $120k.

BajaFresh 12-14-2004 10:25 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
$120K seems more reasonable. Still too much for me though! :(

thisistank 12-15-2004 01:15 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
Hey Al, you are all over this right here!!!

http://secure.offshoreonly.com/geocl...php?a=2&b=3240

Good seeing you Saturday. Lets get out there again soon.

BajaFresh 12-15-2004 02:54 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
Hey Tank, how come you're not in that thing already? :D

Thanks for the heads up on it. I didn't even know he had that boat. I thought he just had the Gladiator. It sure looks like a nice clean boat that is priced pretty reasonable. How fast do you think it goes?

I also talked to LS Jr about theirs as he will take mine in trade. I tried to PM you but it says you don't take PM's.

Still not sure if I want to make the jump all the way to a 38. I will have a storage problem with a boat that size.

thisistank 12-15-2004 03:59 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
That older "Gun" is super clean! Jeff buys and sells boats so that everyone comes out ahead ;) I'm pretty specific what I wnat though. I'm looking at L.S.'s boat too :D I just re-uped my membership, maybe that's why I couldn't get the PM.

bradfitz 12-15-2004 04:05 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
You can pick up a 2004 30 outlaw with ho's and all the options and a triple axle trailer between 110k and 115k. I know where there are 2 for sale. Hot Boat magazine did a dealer/manufacturer exclusive poker-run on Lake Ponchartrain in Louisiana. There were several manufacturers represented including Sunsation and Formula. The boats were all in the same class. The 30ft outlaw made an excellent showing. You can read all about it in the Feb. issue of Hot Boat.

boss252 12-15-2004 04:14 PM

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Why is it that Baja never takes a boat to these magazine trials with big power? I thought it was a good article, but would like to see what kind of numbers it would put up with 525's.

BajaFresh 12-15-2004 05:09 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 

Originally Posted by boss252
Why is it that Baja never takes a boat to these magazine trials with big power? I thought it was a good article, but would like to see what kind of numbers it would put up with 525's.


Probably trying to avoid too much sticker shock. :eek:

I'd love to see that boat with HP500s or 525s.

BEAST1 12-15-2004 10:25 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
Baja did build a 30 with 525's. I actually got to drive it. Run upper 80's. I know they played with it and was running in the low 90's. The article was pretty good but I di not like the wording they used like "entry level boat". What, only a beginner can drive this boat. I think not. That boat rocks and there is no noised with the cabin door. Maybe they should try to drive it with the door open like everyone else. Just my two cents

derekdeben 12-16-2004 07:29 AM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
Beast1,

I agree with you on the "entry level boat" comment. I do not consider a boat that is capable of running 80 stock an entry level boat.

I did not like the comment about the boat not dominating 2-3 footers. I am sure if you had other boats in the same class they would all be really close.

D

thisistank 12-16-2004 10:01 AM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 

Originally Posted by BEAST1
Baja did build a 30 with 525's. I actually got to drive it. Run upper 80's. I know they played with it and was running in the low 90's. The article was pretty good but I di not like the wording they used like "entry level boat". What, only a beginner can drive this boat. I think not. That boat rocks and there is no noised with the cabin door. Maybe they should try to drive it with the door open like everyone else. Just my two cents

I know they had problems calling it an "entry level boat" because of it's sticker price, size, and total package....It's a nice boat for an entry level. But it was one of the upper level entry level boats and that is what it should be called when compaired to a new 38' + Cig, Fountain, OL, Skater, etc. etc. Even Cigs new "Vice" is called an entry level boat (by Cig!)....Don't get offended by the wording, being entry level isn't a bad thing. THey don't call the 40' Outlaw and entry level boat. Over 30 is experienced level (usually second boat owners) and under 30' is entry level (1st boat buyers)....for the most part.

I didn't see the comment about the boat not domminating the 2-3's but I can tell you my 24' hits that stuff every time I use it practically and hammers them down :D Ask Al, he's seen it run :eek: :drink:

derekdeben 12-16-2004 10:38 AM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
I had an H2X and have boated all over the country with it, Lake Michigan, Texas, Florida and NY. Let me tell you the roughest water being Lake Michigan and New York Harbor. Never once was a scared of the boat not being able to handle the rough water.

If my H2X could handle 2-3 footers and water taxi wake I would bet the 30 Outlaw could dominate 2-3 footers.

29 OUTLAW 12-16-2004 11:06 AM

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I don't know how a 30 rides but a 29 is actually kind of boring till you hit 4 footers.

JaayTeee 12-16-2004 05:46 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 

Originally Posted by 29 OUTLAW
I don't know how a 30 rides but a 29 is actually kind of boring till you hit 4 footers.



Very true :D :D

BajaFresh 12-16-2004 08:13 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 

Originally Posted by thisistank

I didn't see the comment about the boat not domminating the 2-3's but I can tell you my 24' hits that stuff every time I use it practically and hammers them down :D Ask Al, he's seen it run :eek: :drink:


That boat runs hard and Tank knows how to drive it! Shiat, we get 2 to 3's inside the breakwater! :D

BajaFresh 12-16-2004 08:16 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
When they said "entry level" I think they meant entry level into twin engine boats, not boats in general.

Is anybody running really big power in a Baja? Like Sterlings, Phaffs, Zuls, etc? I don't think I've ever seen one. I'd like to see a 36 Outlaw with about 900HP per side!

29 OUTLAW 12-16-2004 09:45 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
Here's one:

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/1/4/75278114.htm

BajaFresh 12-16-2004 11:43 PM

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That is sweet! 900SCs with #6s. Seams like it is priced pretty right too.

berns29scarab 12-17-2004 08:57 AM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
got a friend whos a baja dealer says there about 30% markup in the new 30 from invoice to list...that would put cost in the high $1 teens

Ironmanwb 12-18-2004 09:13 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
That 40ol supposedly was a demo boat and has alot of "baggage". I heard that it had the piss run out of it and that it has many more than 30 hrs on it. I would love to have it but I don't have that kind of checkbook.

Also I read about a 36 with 900's that is well into the triple digits but i have no idea where I read that.

There is a 420 ES baja in Port Clinton, OH that has trip 700sc cobras but they are being rebuilt and detuned to 600hp. That boat was 90+. It is for sale for about 150K but you could probably buy it for 135K-140K with warrantys and all. I have thought alot about it. It is cherry too.

FX10 01-01-2005 01:34 AM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
You guys are killing meeeee. I've been to cigaette and seen there glasswork. Traded mine in for a Y2K 32'(30' at waterline) Superboat. Check the APBA records books. Superboats are the top winners. Fountain still hasn't beaten M.R.D. Express( twin 366ci.) . That boat was in the APBA hall of Fame, as the most wins in APBA history. A stock Y2K with a single 496ho goes 76mph, and thats GPS. You can even get twins to suit you fancy.
Check out this thread !!

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=92740

Rick

BRET 01-01-2005 09:50 AM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 
So what.

BajaFresh 01-01-2005 12:41 PM

Re: 30 Outlaw in Powerboat Mag
 

Originally Posted by FX10
You guys are killing meeeee. I've been to cigaette and seen there glasswork. Traded mine in for a Y2K 32'(30' at waterline) Superboat. Check the APBA records books. Superboats are the top winners. Fountain still hasn't beaten M.R.D. Express( twin 366ci.) . That boat was in the APBA hall of Fame, as the most wins in APBA history. A stock Y2K with a single 496ho goes 76mph, and thats GPS. You can even get twins to suit you fancy.
Check out this thread !!

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=92740

Rick


???

Superboats are fine boats with a great reputation. But....what's that got to do with Baja's?

Not sure of the point of this post!?! :crazy:


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