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Jayl13 01-07-2002 09:38 AM

Need some explanation on stuff
 
Okay so im sitting in blizzard hell in PA right now.
LOL
Anyway
Had a question on proper use of batteries on board
Suppose I sleep out for the weekend (which I will be doing a good amount of the time)
Boat has 2 batteries on board
Both with switches
How do I use these
I have one battery on board at moment with is a 1000 CCA battery for the engines
Should I get a deep cycle to run cabin lights and accessories during night time
How long can that battery be using the mood lights , radio or TV or ect with out the engines running?

Is there any rules of thumb that I should know like for evey 5 hrs of battery usage, run engines for 10 min ect?
Dont want to go out and nuke a battery and have only one left.
Next is the Refridgerator on board
Alot of us have the same Nortic cold ice box fridge on board
How much power does this draw? Is there an inverter in there somewhere that can be used for somthing else or do I need a new one for other accessories like coffee maker or tiny TV thing?
More questions coming soon as I think of them
Thanks guys
Jason

Allan4 01-07-2002 12:25 PM

Well well well, look who's back. :D

I don't have a full answer for you, but I do know you probably don't want to keep frying a battery until it's drained. Everytime you drain a battery the electrons jump off the plate and whne it is recharged, not all of them go back on to the plates. Therfor, you shorten the life of the battery. Just my .02, glad to see ya back around, even if you are mentally unstable.... in fact,we like that around here :D Later

29 OUTLAW 01-07-2002 12:48 PM

You should have a deep cycle for running all your accessories. The battery rating that is important is “amp hours”. Type 27 batteries are usually 100 – 110 amp hours. Two things are known: An engines charging system is really not capable of charging a battery more than 80% of full capacity. So, if you have a battery rated at 100 amp hours, you really only get 80. Also – you never want to discharge you battery lower than 50%. This greatly reduces the overall life of the battery. So, you really only get 30 amp hours out of a 100 amp hour battery. To figure out how long 30 amp hours is you have to add up the usage of all your stuff. If all your stuff added up draws 1 amp, then you can run it for 30 hours. If all your stuff added up draws 30 amps, then you can run it for only 1 hour – get the idea?

Also – stuff designed to run on 120 volt house current will need to multiplied by 10 when running on 12 volt battery current. For example, a TV that draws .5 amps in your house will draw 5 amps in your boat. Using the formula above, you could run that TV in your boat for 6 hours (5 amps times 6 hours equals 30 amp hours).

Also – Don’t think that your engine can recharge a type 27 deep cycle by running 10 minutes. Figure more like 8 hours. Best bet
Is to charge it on a charger after each 30 hours.

Jayl13 01-07-2002 01:11 PM

are these things listed on each item on the boat? Or should i look around for more battery powered items like battery TV or the like?
What do you guys do when you head out for a weekend? you run the fridge all day and night or use a cooler with ice?
What second battery is good for this type of useage? Like I said I have a high CCA battery to knock over the engines (can I charge that quickly as well?)
or start up and run for 20-30 min on that and then change over to charge deep cycle battery?
Thanks
Jason

Sounds like a trickle charger for weekday use is a good bet to prep for weekend useage
Jason

thisistank 01-07-2002 01:46 PM

So how much amp's am I drawing with 600 watts of stereo!!?? :D :D

Tank

Wally 01-07-2002 01:47 PM

Well you could do what i did and overkill the system! I have 4 batterys and 4 switches onboard my Scarab. Each engine has its dedicated battery and i also have two extra batts for the stereo and acc's. They are all wired up so i can use any one of the four batts to start the engines incase something was to go wrong. Or i can use all 4 batts to start one engine. I have never run out of juice yet even while playing the Stereo all day at Party Cove and had teh fridge running too! :D :D

29 OUTLAW 01-07-2002 02:18 PM

Tank,

A 12 volt device that requires 600 watts of power input would be drawing 50 amps of current however, the 600 watts you reference is probably peak output not input. In addition, 600 watts of peak output is seldom hit. At any rate, input requirements are listed on the device in question or in the owners manual.

thisistank 01-07-2002 02:30 PM

OK OK, all I know is I can kill two batteries in a day bumpin the jams at havasu! My alternator will not re-charge the batteries. The stereo sucks up more juice than the alternator puts out! But then again I think my alt. was going bad. New motor soon though with new alt. :D :D

Tank

Jayl13 01-07-2002 02:56 PM

That is EXACTALLY what I want to avoid
Maybe Ill buy a third battery and the 2 on one side will be deep cycle and the other 1000 CCA will be for engines
That way a reserve is on hand and ready to go in the event of an issue or loss of power

My boat is too small for a generator
Jason

29 OUTLAW 01-07-2002 03:13 PM

I have a stand-alone deep cycle hooked to a 1500 watt inverter and it's not even part of the boat's electrical system. This works for me since all I run are carry-on devices that I plug into the inverter (coffee pot, blender, small vacuum cleaner, etc). When I get back home I hook it up to the charger. I know this wouldn't work for you guys with big power stereos that are hardwired-in.


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