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Old 06-21-2010, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by phragle
My guess is that you would be 3 counties over as fast as your little feet could carry you.
Ok Rob, so do you think that all of what you posted being the case, Chris would not take a guaranteed SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS to walk away and turn the site ownership over to a consortium of the four main site supporters / operators / bill payers BUT he would instead take ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, walk away and just hand the site over to ONE founder who logged less hours on the site in a year than you did every day?
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Airpacker
Ok Rob, so do you think that all of what you posted being the case, Chris would not take a guaranteed SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS to walk away and turn the site ownership over to a consortium of the four main site supporters / operators / bill payers BUT he would instead take ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, walk away and just hand the site over to ONE founder who logged less hours on the site in a year than you did every day?
Now there is a question worth waiting for an answer on !!
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:36 PM
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Given such adversity to sheering sheep, it would be MUCH easier and MUCH more profitable for him to find a new flock to fleece.

I would agree if Google didnt exist.

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Thats just it, google can provide his next victims and specialty dejour with the click of a mouse. An endless listing of special intrests to exploit, Hence my earlier reply" where is he going next" 5 minutes on google will find an entirely different base of victims, a few hours on google to learn the catch phrases and basics and whaalaaah... he could be the new king of kit cars with a shelby cobra knock off and a fiero ferrari in the garage extolling the virtues of carbon fiber body panels vs. fiberglass as he bums a ride on the next rod run.
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:38 PM
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Cessna czar...omg I'm dying...that is hilarious.
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by catastrophe
Now there is a question worth waiting for an answer on !!
Thats an easy one. at the time he probably thought he had a return much greater than that waiting. he got greedy, he held on to his stock when his broker told him to sell...the stock tanked. He phucked himself on that one. You really think that right now he isn't wishing he had taken the money and ran?? Now his stock is worthless, he has no more investors to bilk. Once a ponzi collapses its done, your not going to make money off of it, you have to go start a new one. At the time the money was offered, he more than likely thought it as a speed bump and didn't slow down, he soon found that speed bump was a brick wall smashing head on. He then gave Stecz the last semi dented hubcap.

You guys seem to think that hubcap was to distract people while he tried to rebuild the car. Hell he stole the care to begin with, why rebuild it when there is an entire parking lot of cars with the keys in them, engines running on the other side of the street???

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Old 06-21-2010, 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Airpacker
Ok Rob, so do you think that all of what you posted being the case, Chris would not take a guaranteed SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLARS to walk away and turn the site ownership over to a consortium of the four main site supporters / operators / bill payers BUT he would instead take ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, walk away and just hand the site over to ONE founder who logged less hours on the site in a year than you did every day?
I thought it was'nt his to sell......
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When national crashed and burned, did he give the buisness to his secrataries cousin so he could keep scamming boaters behind the scenes or did he go find new victims that Knew nothing of his boat selling endevours??
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Old 06-21-2010, 04:05 PM
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When national crashed and burned, did he give the buisness to his secrataries cousin so he could keep scamming boaters behind the scenes or did he go find new victims that Knew nothing of his boat selling endevours??
Just a side note on the Hionis thing. I first met him in 99 when he became a Cig dealer. it was my first year as a Cig dealer as well.

Bill got caught up in the lifestyle and trying to be the biggest dealer in the world. That simple. When ends couldnt meet it fell apart. Problem is that he tried to keep things alfloat with other peoples money for wayyy to long. If he hadnt blown the money on jets/hookers/blow etc he would ve made it. He implemented some creative, yet legal, cash flow financing strategies that would have worked.

In the end he made bad decisions and wound up stealing money. I see CS as a very diff thief/scumbag
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Actually Sunkin wanted to be a baller, big man on campus.... everything he said and did was to become a boat guru in peoples eyes. Had he just been happy being himself he would have been successfull. He got caught up in wannabe ballerdom and it collapsed. Thats the thing, if Chris had been Chris instead of trying to con us into thinking he something he wasn't (as far as the money, I don't know if it was blatant theft or more likely, the I'm short, I can borrow it and pay it back nxt week, except next week he was still short scenario) He would be on top of SOS and would be the guy he wlways wanted to be. So they both jumped into the deep end and found themselves over their heads. Sunkin didnt do this for instant money, he did it for status.
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If he hadnt blown the money on jets/hookers/blow etc he would ve made it. He implemented some creative, yet legal, cash flow financing strategies that would have worked.
If he SUNKIN hadnt blown the HIS CREDIBILTY on jets/hookers/blow BEING BMOCetc he would ve made it. He implemented some creative, yet legal, cash flow financing strategies that would have workedPUT TOGETHER THE BRST TEAM OF GUYS POSSIBLE WHO WERE HELPING HIM BUILD A MAJOR FORCE IN THE OFFSHORE WORLD.
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