I'm not saying that at all, what I'm saying is there are 2 people that got hosed on that deal and everyone who has no clue is affixing blame on only one, the other guy that holds the note is out approx 90k... So many are blaming the one guy that they aren't thinking that he got hosed too? I would go all the way to court as well. I'm telling the truth and you know it!

I understand. All these guys are scum bags. I wish I knew in advance that a few of the scumbags were going to be at oyster creek for the awards a few months past. Karma is a *****.

You really shouldn't be making threats, karma already handled. As for card shark, the real thieves cut a deal so early in the beginning that they made it impossible to be prosecuted. Many of the others were charged just to see what would stick....I'm done with this now. the truth will come out eventually.

I never threaten anyone. Just said I wish i knew. I would have liked to talk.

Rob I sure hope you are not insinuating that Winters was not in on this? He is in deeper than even Angelo so please don t try and make me think he is out anything. He is way worse than any of these guys. He had his own money and was still out ripping off people and insurance companies. He is worse in my book. With all that money and he wants to be a gangster with his wana be thug friends. Please with that ****. He was hosing Angelo for money and boats.

With Winters and Curtis going up the river...or down...whichever...good ole ROB is going to have to get his parts from somewhere else. No wonder he is neck deep in their butts...quality parts and damn cheap.

So what about the original owner, Dennis Hall, was he in on it as "make my boat disappear" or was it a legit theft?

Legit theft? Oxymoron

The story goes that a certain person that sells boats made mention to another person that has a high performance boat place up in Pottsboro, Texas...right next to lake Texoma, who then made mention to the owner...Dennis Hall that his boat could disappear. The rest of the story goes that Dennis Hall made a statement like..."I dont want to know about it", back to the high performance boat place owner up in Pottsboro and he relayed the message back to the dude that sells the Skater boats. Now...for some strange reason, the boat in question was placed in an extremely convenient spot...away from anyother boats and all locks on the boat and or trailer were removed. Hmmmmmmmm...why was that? Then, all of a sudden, the boat just went POOF, while the dude that sells the Skater boats cut a trail as fast as he could to his buddy at the DA's office to sign a letter of immunity to testify against the guy (Jeff Murray) that he originally contacted to take the boat because he and his Mother have already been to a Federal lockup several years back and I would guess that he didnt want to make a second trip. The high performance boat place dude owner says that he went deer hunting...riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. The boat disappears and all of a sudden, there is a video of the heist being done. Strange tho, about the video. There isnt a camera mounted in the approximate spot that was used to get the video and during the video, the camera was moved alittle to get Jeff more into the center of the pic...how convenient. Could the owner of the high performance boat place not have gone deer hunting, but instead decided to stay and make a movie? That is what I think and a few of the officials also think that, but what I think doesnt count. I know for fact that that is exactly what one Sherman detective thinks. Anyway, the boat goes on a road trip and in less than 24 hours, it was delivered to Angelo Gimaldi at Activator boats where there was a New York engine builder present...and he was there during the dis-manteling.

To sum it all up...the boat was there to sell, but it was so over priced that no one would even ask after being told the price. One of the investigators told me that the owner was upside down in the boat...so the boat had to go away.
Rocks are not selling that good around here.

That's interesting

So because I believe in letting the court system handle it I'm a thief too? This coming from a guy that was ripping people off on junk shade tree engines and a phony website that was blowing Jeff Murray, you're laughable.