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rmbuilder 07-10-2012 06:38 PM

Louis Mota
 
I would like to caution the members of OSO against conducting any business transactions with Louis “Louie” Mota, who posts in the swap section as ‘loumota’.
We are currently in the process of initiating civil and criminal proceedings, including credit card fraud, against Lou Mota and Alissa Tyack. Lou Mota is currently using a credit card in the name of Alissa Tyack for his purchases.

If you are contemplating selling to Mr. Mota, I would strongly recommend not accepting any form of credit card or bank check.

If you are considering purchasing from Lou Mota, I would advise extreme caution as the serial numbers of all components sold to Mr. Mota (and resold as standalone or included in complete engines) have been recorded by Massachusetts authorities and will be subject to exposure of further legal action. If you are one of the Lou Mota “engine customers” the serial numbered components in these engines are recorded and will be subject to further litigation.

If you require any further information regarding (name/address/contact) Mr. Mota or Alissa Tyack please feel free to contact us at your convenience.

Unlimited jd 07-10-2012 08:00 PM

well isnt that just swell, i bought a pair of props from him took a bit to get them glad i used paypal hope my account wasnt hacked

Wobble 07-11-2012 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by rmbuilder (Post 3727270)
I would like to caution the members of OSO against conducting any business transactions with Louis “Louie” Mota, who posts in the swap section as ‘loumota’.
We are currently in the process of initiating civil and criminal proceedings, including credit card fraud, against Lou Mota and Alissa Tyack. Lou Mota is currently using a credit card in the name of Alissa Tyack for his purchases.

If you are contemplating selling to Mr. Mota, I would strongly recommend not accepting any form of credit card or bank check.

If you are considering purchasing from Lou Mota, I would advise extreme caution as the serial numbers of all components sold to Mr. Mota (and resold as standalone or included in complete engines) have been recorded by Massachusetts authorities and will be subject to exposure of further legal action. If you are one of the Lou Mota “engine customers” the serial numbered components in these engines are recorded and will be subject to further litigation.

If you require any further information regarding (name/address/contact) Mr. Mota or Alissa Tyack please feel free to contact us at your convenience.

Bob,

I hate to hear that you have been made a victim. You are one of the most valuable people on here IMHO.

Good luck with the recovery.

FIRST AFENCE 07-11-2012 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by wobble (Post 3727821)
bob,

i hate to hear that you have been made a victim. You are one of the most valuable people on here imho.

Good luck with the recovery.

+1

the deep 07-13-2012 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by Wobble (Post 3727821)
Bob,

I hate to hear that you have been made a victim. You are one of the most valuable people on here IMHO.

Good luck with the recovery.

+2 Sorry to hear this . Bob is as good as they come . Should we pay this dirtbag a visit OSO ? :angry-smiley-038::angry-smiley-038::angry-smiley-038:

loumota 07-15-2012 05:56 PM

Ok Bob, let's get some things straight. I spent $18,000 with you on parts that were suppose to take two weeks and ended up taking 6 weeks. I got 2 dart blocks that somebody robbed the cam bearrings, freeze plugs, dowels, and oil galley plugs from that cost me $130 each set. A set of AFR heads that came with the wrong springs cost me $250 for springs each set, $150 for retainers each set. I sent you a Bank Check next day mail for $9,800.00 and your saying it wasn't a good check, funny, it came out of my account and I have the copy of the Certified Bank Check. I also have the bank statements of every single withdrawal you took out of my account totaling over $18,000.00. We would not be at this point if you did not call the police after not speaking with me for 2 days. I told you I had to get more money from the guy I was building the motor for and put it in the account. You continued to make withdrawals over and over without my permission causing me over $150 in overdraft fees. Also, I did call you back even after you called the police and you never answered me. And as far as a "fraudulent credit card" it is a Debit card. You went about this all wrong, a simple apology to me would have straightened things out but over $700.00 you decide to do all this. Even after doing all this to me, I am a better person than you and I will still send you the $700.00 if you set this straight. Anybody that knows me knows I would never screw anyone over, especially over $700.00.

Thanks,
Louie Mota

MER Performance 07-19-2012 04:32 PM

I have known Bob, for several years and this doesn't make sense to me. I know for a fact if anything wasn't right in the order, it would be there the next day if needed. He's a phone call away for any questions. We have sent parts back and forth between us over the years and to some of his customers if he had a shortage on anything. I have always know Bob, to go above and beyond to give customer satisfaction.
For Bob, to come up short on delivery, is not the same Bob, I know or anyone else that has been a customer of his. I am sure there's more to the story then you are stating here. I know Bob, is very patient even with people that pay slow, or have issues.
Maybe some of Bob's, customers should chime in and give their customer satisfaction statements.
Pay your billl !

innerrage 07-19-2012 08:54 PM

BOB M would not be where he is today or as busy as he is year round if he made mistakes like you said,thiers a reason why people use bob,His trust and honesty and knowledge,etc.BOB good luck.

articfriends 07-20-2012 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by loumota (Post 3730578)
Ok Bob, let's get some things straight. I spent $18,000 with you on parts that were suppose to take two weeks and ended up taking 6 weeks. I got 2 dart blocks that somebody robbed the cam bearrings, freeze plugs, dowels, and oil galley plugs from that cost me $130 each set. A set of AFR heads that came with the wrong springs cost me $250 for springs each set, $150 for retainers each set. I sent you a Bank Check next day mail for $9,800.00 and your saying it wasn't a good check, funny, it came out of my account and I have the copy of the Certified Bank Check. I also have the bank statements of every single withdrawal you took out of my account totaling over $18,000.00. We would not be at this point if you did not call the police after not speaking with me for 2 days. I told you I had to get more money from the guy I was building the motor for and put it in the account. You continued to make withdrawals over and over without my permission causing me over $150 in overdraft fees. Also, I did call you back even after you called the police and you never answered me. And as far as a "fraudulent credit card" it is a Debit card. You went about this all wrong, a simple apology to me would have straightened things out but over $700.00 you decide to do all this. Even after doing all this to me, I am a better person than you and I will still send you the $700.00 if you set this straight. Anybody that knows me knows I would never screw anyone over, especially over $700.00.

Thanks,
Louie Mota

Last time I bought a Dart block I had to pay 130$ for the block kits that you mention as they are NOT included with the blocks.
When you order ANY aftermarket head they put "house" springs and matching retainers on it that are generic and you are best off getting them without them as springs are VERY specialized as to what cam they will work with but as a engine builder (you do claim you are building this for someone else) you should or would already know this.
When you give someone your Visa DEBIT card (actually your Moms/girlfriend-whoevers that was) to run a charge and tell them the funds ARE in the account then remove them or spend them before the charge goes thru yes, you will bounce your checking account so blame yourself.
Speaking with Bob today as I often conduct business with him I asked him about the fraud charges, YOUR visa debit card initiated that action, not HIM but you obviously are aware of that.
In the future maybe get your OWN credit card and maybe you won't run into this, your problems are SELF induced!

MER Performance 07-20-2012 10:29 AM

Well said, Mr. Arctic. Nothing worse than helping someone and they try to cheat you or take money out of your pocket.
:hijack: I had a guy after 22 yrs in business, get me for 2800.00. I was warned and believed he would follow through with his promise. I had a signed invoice, a check, I could cash if delivery didn't happen. He paid his bill, but he didn't build me 4 steel tables in exchange for dyno fees for 2 engines, and parts for dressing them out. The check, was on a inactive acct. and the signed invoice wasn't worth me taking the time to pursue it. So now it's a joke and the "wall of shame". The bad thing is I agreed to it and so did he. What goes around comes back around to BITE YOU!

Vinny P 07-28-2012 09:02 PM

I have had several dealings with Bob. Not one have EVER ended wrong. He is a stand up guy who makes things right and makes sure you are happy with your purchase. To tell you how highly I rate him, I lost a friendship a few years ago over a dealing he had with Bob. I worked with my friend for a long time, recommended him to Bob on an engine build. He and his engine builder screwed Bob over a few parts. Now mind you, I have never even met Bob in person. In my opinion, it was obvious what my so called friend did, so I took Bobs side. The end result, I still talk and deal with Bob and have not talked to my x-friend since.
Hey Bob... BTW, I have heard through the grape vine that after he took your parts out his engine never ran right, even after a couple of cam swaps. Better yet, the engine grenaded shortly after. :evilb:

dennyp123 09-03-2012 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by the deep (Post 3729524)
+2 Sorry to hear this . Bob is as good as they come . Should we pay this dirtbag a visit OSO ? :angry-smiley-038::angry-smiley-038::angry-smiley-038:

Bob is aces...made me a great cam and fixed a horrible job by a previous builder. He is extremely knowledgeable, patient, and trusting. He sent me $1,800 of parts prior to invoicing me and I sent him a check the next day. Anyone who makes an enemy with Bob, by breaking such trust, is losing a valuable asset.

Andrew 19 09-05-2012 08:00 PM

Mr. Bob has been very helpful and more than patient w/my old & novice
venture.(repower) He is a class act with sincere compassion.
R. Mock

mustangmark 11-08-2012 07:29 AM

Bob is absolutely at the top of his game! He worked with me all last winter suggesting various parts for my project and I went with him on the valvetrain. He exceeded all of my expectations and I have never met anyone that has been as willing to go as far out of his way to make sure his customers get exactly what they need and are completely taken care of. His parts prices are reasonable in my opinion and the knowledge he has and is willing to share with his customers is priceless! The patience he displayed while working with me (due to a conflict regarding valvetrain assembly. specs by my machinist.....by the way, he did finally listen to me and set the springs up with your specs Bob) was impressive. I recommend Bob to anyone I can when the opportunity presents itself and will continue to do so in the future! His reputation speaks for itself!

Mark

CC230 11-09-2012 01:08 PM

I've been working with Bob myself. I'm dealing with my machine shop which is doing what Bob asked as far as specs on the block and heads, but is slow going (I told them to take their time, they are busy and I'm working in the boat). And now Bob is waiting on me, so he can design and make the cam. But told me whenever I'm ready to let him know.
To me, with no money exchanged, that's stand up customer service.
Jody

mustangmark 11-09-2012 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by CC230 (Post 3812067)
I've been working with Bob myself. I'm dealing with my machine shop which is doing what Bob asked as far as specs on the block and heads, but is slow going (I told them to take their time, they are busy and I'm working in the boat). And now Bob is waiting on me, so he can design and make the cam. But told me whenever I'm ready to let him know.
To me, with no money exchanged, that's stand up customer service.
Jody

Couldn't agree with you more! I emailed Bob and talked to him on many occasions before I bought a single part from him! He was always courteous, treated me with respect, listened to my needs and gave his opinion. There are far to many business owners these days that won't give you the time of day unless you're spending money with them at the time of the conversation and even worse yet are the ones that rush you, don't listen then take your money and rush to get you off the phone or out the door...typically ending with the customer being unsatisfied at one point or another! My experience with Bob was a very positive one and I couldn't be happier with the parts he provided, suggested, etc... I remember calling him at one point because I needed to ask him some questions about buying the correct push rod length cheching kit. He said he has a couple that bounce around from customer to customer and he would email one of his customers that currently had it sent to them and have that customer sent it to me. Sure enough.....about a week later it showed up at my door step. About amonth later I received an email from Bob with another address to ship it to. I really thought that was something else that he just has these kits roaming back and forth across the U.S. going from customer to customer in an effort to go that extra mile to help his customers out and make sure the lengths on the push rods are correct! I really just cant say enough good things about Bob, his professionalism or how important impeccable customer service is to him......it is very apparent that these are extremely important to him when he conducts business with his customers. As an end result from all of this I have a motor that runs fantastic and that I'm very happy with. Thanks again for all the time you spent working with me on my build Bob. It is very appreciated!
Mark

articfriends 11-10-2012 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by MER Performance (Post 3734992)
Well said, Mr. Arctic. Nothing worse than helping someone and they try to cheat you or take money out of your pocket.
:hijack: I had a guy after 22 yrs in business, get me for 2800.00. I was warned and believed he would follow through with his promise. I had a signed invoice, a check, I could cash if delivery didn't happen. He paid his bill, but he didn't build me 4 steel tables in exchange for dyno fees for 2 engines, and parts for dressing them out. The check, was on a inactive acct. and the signed invoice wasn't worth me taking the time to pursue it. So now it's a joke and the "wall of shame". The bad thing is I agreed to it and so did he. What goes around comes back around to BITE YOU!

I missed your comment about the customer writing you a check on a closed/inactive account. Around here they STILL put people in jail/prison for that as its considered a Felony , you might want to prosecute the guy IF it hasn't been too long, Smitty

MER Performance 11-12-2012 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 3812866)
I missed your comment about the customer writing you a check on a closed/inactive account. Around here they STILL put people in jail/prison for that as its considered a Felony , you might want to prosecute the guy IF it hasn't been too long, Smitty

In South Carolina, if you wait more than 10 days to cash the check, it's considered NO GOOD!!!! I am laughing at this point. I will be starting a post in the Beware & Stolen section. This guy, never had any intentions of paying me. It was a deal; he was to make me 4 steel tables in exchange for labor for dyno of 2 engines, and some parts for the amount of $2800.00. He gave me a check for the amount, and said; you can cash it, if the tables are not completed by a certain date.

articfriends 11-12-2012 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by MER Performance (Post 3813537)
In South Carolina, if you wait more than 10 days to cash the check, it's considered NO GOOD!!!! I am laughing at this point. I will be starting a post in the Beware & Stolen section. This guy, never had any intentions of paying me. It was a deal; he was to make me 4 steel tables in exchange for labor for dyno of 2 engines, and some parts for the amount of $2800.00. He gave me a check for the amount, and said; you can cash it, if the tables are not completed by a certain date.

We get 90 days in Mi as far as I know, Smitty

abones 11-12-2012 09:52 PM

I believe it is called the "Stale Date" and might be 6 months in MI.

adk61 10-24-2014 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by abones (Post 3813935)
I believe it is called the "Stale Date" and might be 6 months in MI.

same up here 6 months

adk61 10-24-2014 09:13 AM

and Bob is a stand up guy!! been around as long as me if not longer!! don't worry Bob Karma is the equalizer!!

Greatguy66 10-24-2014 12:13 PM

:cheer:Old tread but don't believe good guy stories when it comes to business!After buying intake manifold on here that was duped up I whould never buy another item off site!Won't slander the guy because plenty off morons on here whould chime in saying what a great guy he is??????:hitfan:

mike tkach 10-26-2014 09:22 PM

don,t worry about what guys have to say.if you got screwed this is the place to talk about it.

airjunky 10-27-2014 08:54 PM

I'll say it . I've talked to some major players in the engine game .and I have talked to bob . Some are in it more for the money than the love .for Bob , I would say the love .A wealth of knowledge , and always willing to share .


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