Scam with PayPal
 

Selling the boat and just want to know how they can scam a PayPal deal I thought it was secure. I keep getting this crap.:spam2:




Re: 85 Carrera SS9MFriday, December 28, 2012 10:32 AM
From: "Roseline Smith" <[email protected]>To: "@att.net>
Happy to read back from you. I did go through your advert and I am satisfied with it. I am okay with the asking price and would love to go ahead with the deal right away. I am contacting you via email because that works best for me as I am hearing impaired. Presently, I am on duty and coming to your residence for inspection won't be possible, so you have to assure me that its in condition described. You may now consider me a favorite buyer and if possible withdraw the posting from the site immediately so that I can be rest assured that it is all mine . I don't mind adding an extra $20.00 for you just to take down the posting.


Like I said earlier, I'm very busy with my job as I currently work as a geophysical investigator in the mountains until January 31, so I will be paying you online via my PayPal account which is attached to my bank account because it is the only form of payment that I have access to right now and also because of its good security nature. If you are interested in selling it please provide me with the following information:


1)Your full name
2) Paypal email address,
3)Address for pick up


Kindly get back to me ASAP with the requested information so that I can initiate the deal through PayPal immediately. If you do not have a PayPal account, visit www.paypal.com to create an account. It is very simple to set up and highly secure to deal with.


You will not be responsible for the shipping as my mover will come over to your address for the pick up after I have made the payment and you have received the confirmation of Payment from PayPal.

If you need to reach me send me an email or text message (989) 787-2381 (Text only because I am hearing impaired). I drive in range every 3 hours to check correspondence and respond at that time. Waiting to read back from you with the requested information.


Best Regards,
Rose.


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SCAM ALL THE WAY,,Stay Away

This is the biggest scam on the web for C-list sellers.

I always place in my ads on Craigs that "I DON'T DO PAYPAL, this is a cash sale or 3rd party escrow service transaction"

When I get these reply's I e-mail them back "If you can read English, read this again from my ad "I DON'T DO PAYPAL, this is a cash sale or 3rd party escrow service transaction. "Now Go phuck yourself" then I delete and remove them.

The funny thing is it's always a twist on thew same story
I'm a marine hydrographer out to sea and am buying it for my father etc, the price is acceptable and make me your favorite buyer...

MORONS for sure, but I've always wanted to take one for a ride by accepting, see who shows up, and then asking "where's the cash we agreed on?"

See ya,
Kelly

Two types of people use PayPal:

Those that have been screwed by PayPal.
Those that are going to be screwed by PayPal.

PayPal ALWAYS will take the word of the buyer, no matter what, always and forever.

I had a guy return an empty box to me, showed where it was delivered (delivery confirmation, no signature required) and that was enough for PayPal to refund him.

Buyer/Seller beware- PayPal SUCKS!!

ps- in this day and age having a PayPal account is almost as must. I have one, have it linked to a bank account that I transfer money from PayPal to and then transfer it from that account to another account.

No money in the account, no way to refund scammers. Thankfully I've never had to test my method but hoping it works. This is different than fake funds like most internet scams, talking about "good" money coming to me.

scam all the way look at the grammar

dont think not having money in your account will keep them from getting the money they will get it one way or another they will take you to court and really screw with your credit if needed

Not true about PayPal. They are no worse than accepting credit cards. I am an eBay seller and sell $5K items. As long as I can provide proprer shipping and tracking numbers they have always sided with me. Yes sometimes your money is tied up for 30 days but it's the same when somebody makes a credit card claim. Have all your ducks in a row when your the seller and you won't get burned by PayPal.

If you accept payment for anything through paypal just make the buyer make it a personal payment. Since it is a personal deal like a gift or money owed there are technically no goods changing hands.

No goods means no tracking as you are not shipping anything and there is no buyer protection through paypal as your not selling anything. This way once the deal is done, it is done. A person can not try and get money back and paypal will tell you so.

Sorry but it is true about PayPal. They are much worse than any credit cards. PayPal will not even look at documents proving delivery was satisfactory, I know this for a fact. All your customer has to do is say he wasn't satisfied and you're out the money. Luckily I always transferred the funds out of the account right away but they tried to take my money. I would use them if I was buying an item but never never use PayPal if you're the seller.

It's funny how those replies always have the same seemingly overwhelming cooperation, fairly easy to identify once you've had a few.

all you have to do is follow paypals rules and you will be fine one of the biggest things is you have to have online proof of delivery read the rules and follow it and you will be fine

Reminds me of the posts here. Spelling is better though. :lolhit:

I will never sell on ebay again. I sold a $500 used tool (interface between vehicle and computer). Buyer was didn't pay until I reported nonpayment. Then he paid, waited a week, then claimed the item didn't work. ebay told him to send it back to me, debited my paypal account the full amount (including the $45 fee for ebay and $20 for paypal). I got it back and he was right, it didn't work because he fried it. I could smell burned plastic as soon as I openend the box. I spent hours getting a police report and dealing with customer service to get my money back. Between wasted time and fuel and fees, it cost me about $150 to sell the item, and lots of aggravation.

And all that with a "no returns" auction.

dont take paypal, it can get real bad as i and another oso guy found out.

If you sell anything on eBay how would you all suggest taking payment?

Send me $1K over PayPal, send me an empty box with tracking and we can test each others theory?

I get the $1K, file a claim, return the same empty box to you with tracking and you try to get your $1K back from PayPal? I'll double it if they side with you, even with you telling them what I said and giving them the internet link to this post. As a bonus I promise to post pics of how I blow the $1K just so you know it didn't go to waste.

Good advice on large amount items, the larger threshold determined by you:

http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/guns...-card-payment/

I don't agree. I sold a Carver amplifier on Ebay. The winning bidder had just signed up for paypal and ebay. I shipped the amplifier, which was in perfect working order. Keep in mind a Carver amp weighs about 50+ pounds. Double boxed, not cheap to ship. Anyway, the buyer contacts me 2 weeks after they get the amp, saying that the left channel is blown. They want a full refund. I tell them no way, and I have pictures with the Vu meters fluctuating and putting out signal. They complain to paypal, who refunds their money. I keep no money in the Paypal account. Well, Paypal pulled the money from my linked bank account, which you must have to be a "verified" customer with Ebay/Paypal.

Then, the customer sends me back the amp. It is a different unit! I have my serial numbers, and they don't match. I file a case with Paypal, and was denied.

So, the winning bidder got a perfectly good 700 dollar amp for free. On me, because of Paypal.

errr.... You are not disagreeing, you are proving my point. Buyer always wins, seller always loses!

In my example, seller would be the one sending me $1K (or amp), I would be the buyer getting the $1K (or amp).

Oops. Posted before coffee....

Since paypal is also an Ebay company they (Ebay) only allow you to accept paypal for ebay auctions. I used to put on my auctions paypal, check , or money order accepted and ebay would actually remove my listings because of that wording. Knock on wood I do alot of business on ebay and have not got screwed over like some of the other memebers on here.

paypal is no worse than having a credit card machine and accepting credit cards yourself except the fees might be a little more if someone is going to screw you they will find a way

When ever you are selling something and someone emails you, and it starts of with" Kindly get back to me" or Kindly anything it is a SCAM!!! I get them all the time. one time i even got the guy to call me and talk to me he was a rag head he sent me a fake $1900 citi check. just use your head if its sounds to good to be true it is there is a lot of scum bags out there for sure... Another paypal scam you need to look out for is, when you sell something and they pay using paypal and tell you not to ship it they will pick it up. the money is there and will clear your account but Make sure you have a paper trail and reseat for/of pick up, because if you do not once they have whatever you gave them they go back though paypal and say they never got the product and you never shipped it and then get there money back through paypal by fileing a dispute and it comes out of your packet and they have what ever you sold them and there money.

there are some credit card companies that will let their customers do chargebacks for up to 1 year so that also gives you something to think about

Credit card companies have an avenue for you to dispute the dispute. With paypal, you as the seller have little or no rights. When I had a problem I sent them all the paperwork but they already hit my account for 2700 dollars. Luckily I transferred the money to another account before the claim. They sided with the customer and never wsed my documents or pictures.

Correct. What I am suggesting is to have a bank account linked to Paypal, then another bank account linked to that bank account. I get paid on Paypal, transfer that money to my bank account #1 and then transfer from bank account #1 to bank account #2. Bank account #2 is at the same bank but not linked to Paypal.

Paypal trys to take the money back? This is what happens:
The only thing I changed on that was Your Name Here, it is an actual email from Paypal. I sold a guy a set of props, welded hubs didn't work for him so I refunded him his money. I transferred online from bank account #2 to bank account #1 and then processed the Paypal refund. Some how the money wasn't moved fast enough even though my bank said it was moved and I got hit with a $29 not enough money fee (later wavied). Just giving my example, lesson is if refunding may want to wait a hour or so to make sure the money doesn't pass itself in cyber-space.

Two types of people on Paypal- those that have been screwed and those that are going to get screwed.

hahah i was hit with one of these scams before while buying something but i knew if was a scam after the first reply email so i rolled with it led the guy on for a few days even had him thinking i was on my way to the western union for a money gram etc he kept asking why he hadnt received it yet and we went back and fourth me saying i sent it him saying he didnt get it it was funny finally he told me to F off because i was wasting HIS time hahahah was fun thats for sure! hahahah

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These guys irritate the hell out of me! I reply back with SCAM!!!! They come back saying "oh no I just work offshore. Your full price is good for me and I will even give you extra to pay shipping company". What a bunch of horse $hit.

Think I'm going to play along like some have mentioned. I would like to find a way to piss them off like they do to me.

I ran into a similar deal on a car online, I told him to send me the VIN # so I could check it with the State Police. The ad was pulled and he didn't respond to any more e-mails.

I had a friend that someone tried to scam by sending a bank check for 3-4000.00 over the selling price (secretary screwed up) just send me back the difference with the boat. Found the account the check was drawn from was closed so if he had fallen for it he would have lost the boat and the 3-4k extra. These scams from overseas are non punishable by US law & not looked into overseas so they keep doing it til they find a sucker. Pretty low in my book. Randy

The way the scam works is not through Paypal. The "buyer" sends the you a email of interest to buy and saying he will pay through paypal. The 'buyer" in his email gives a link to paypal site for you to click and here is where the scam begins. By clicking the link one of two things can happen;
1 - you are redirected to a fake Paypal site where the "buyer" steals your personal banking info that the seller enters to consummate the sale
2 - by clicking link it puts spyware on your computer where the "buyer" gets your personal info.
Bottom line - a scam and don't Ever click the link.

I am selling my Harley and I get about 15 of them a day, I just delete them, as they are a big scam.