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Beware!! Crooks!!!
I got my boat in January 2013, shrink-wrapped and uncovered it in March, only to be shocked by all the marks on the boat, that I originally thought to be dirt on the deck of the boat. However, when I went to remove this "dirt" with a cleaner it did not come off. These were markings on my boat, that were not shown to me in pictures previously. I called Casey numerous times, and he finally got back to me denying that the marks were never there. As I had two painters look at the boat, I was told the dirt was in the gelcoat and it would not come off and Legend Marine insists it was never there. It would cost $4000 to paint the boat and $1500 to ship it to a shop where I live. They offered me $1000, which I refused and sent the boat to get painted on my own. While the boat was being painted I also made them check the port motor, which the alarm kept going off when I started the motor and they took the motor apart because they heard the noise too and sent me pictures of a water line along the cylinders. Also, the 5 cylinder and 7 cylinder were worn away completely, and they welded the headers to the head of the motor, which is how the mechanic came to realize there was a problem. As he kept checking the boat, more and more problems kept unfolding in which I was not aware of when purchasing the boat. I am now $16,000 in the hole, due to repairing this boat. I am not on speaking terms with Legend Marine right now, they are very unreasonable and did not want to help me with anything. They just take your money and run!
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Wow, post up the photos! Sorry to hear about this! Classic scams from dealers!
This is why we need to check the boards first and deal with the good guys here! |
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Originally Posted by bubba16
(Post 3940629)
I got my boat in January 2013, shrink-wrapped and uncovered it in March, only to be shocked by all the marks on the boat, that I originally thought to be dirt on the deck of the boat. However, when I went to remove this "dirt" with a cleaner it did not come off. These were markings on my boat, that were not shown to me in pictures previously. I called Casey numerous times, and he finally got back to me denying that the marks were never there. As I had two painters look at the boat, I was told the dirt was in the gelcoat and it would not come off and Legend Marine insists it was never there. It would cost $4000 to paint the boat and $1500 to ship it to a shop where I live. They offered me $1000, which I refused and sent the boat to get painted on my own. While the boat was being painted I also made them check the port motor, which the alarm kept going off when I started the motor and they took the motor apart because they heard the noise too and sent me pictures of a water line along the cylinders. Also, the 5 cylinder and 7 cylinder were worn away completely, and they welded the headers to the head of the motor, which is how the mechanic came to realize there was a problem. As he kept checking the boat, more and more problems kept unfolding in which I was not aware of when purchasing the boat. I am now $16,000 in the hole, due to repairing this boat. I am not on speaking terms with Legend Marine right now, they are very unreasonable and did not want to help me with anything. They just take your money and run!
ps sorry to hear you got burned and it really sucke.. |
So you never looked at the boat to originally see the marks and you didn't have it started and ran or surveyed? And aside from some rocket science elctrobeam welding you aren't going to glue headers to heads. Im not saying you didn't get the short end, just that things aren't totally making sense. And you would be surprised at the marks you can get out of gelcoat with some elbow grease and a buffer. Simple green and a sponge wont do it, but with the right stuff.....
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No survey ? Caveat emptor.
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Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 3940667)
So you never looked at the boat to originally see the marks and you didn't have it started and ran or surveyed? And aside from some rocket science elctrobeam welding you aren't going to glue headers to heads. Im not saying you didn't get the short end, just that things aren't totally making sense. And you would be surprised at the marks you can get out of gelcoat with some elbow grease and a buffer. Simple green and a sponge wont do it, but with the right stuff.....
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Sounds like its going to Be Nice when done.
welcome to BOAT N. Break Out Another Thousand Now......:whistle: |
I agree let the buyer beware.
BUT that should be soothed somewhat by buying from what should be a trustworthy ( I know ) large dealer,,,,,and not some boat you found off of craigslist. |
I thought it was BOATT.... Break Out Another Ten Thousand!!
Maybe that is just me! |
Sounds like the OP bought the boat from great distance and unseen. I too have done that but had a surveyor go over the boat for me before purchase. I remember once being a little pissed I had spent $600-700 having a boat checked out only to find it had major problems. Then I realized that money was well spent cause what if I HAD BOUGHT IT!!!!!
Get used stuff checked out, I trust everyone....but verify for myself. |
Last time Ya buy a used boat with no survey eh? Reputable dealer or not it is your own fault. Expensive lesson...
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If Legends denied any problem with the paint, why did they offer you $1,000? Seems to me that they're admitting that there was a problem, no?
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Originally Posted by TCBoss302
(Post 3941013)
If Legends denied any problem with the paint, why did they offer you $1,000? Seems to me that they're admitting that there was a problem, no?
a Marine Surveyor should of been used |
FYI....
Cast steel and stainless can absolutely be welded together. Stainless and aluminum, no.... 316ls I do it regularly......not heads to exhaust mind u....but cold stamped steel to stainless an fittings |
Originally Posted by gofastlvr
(Post 3940831)
I thought it was BOATT.... Break Out Another Ten Thousand!!
Maybe that is just me! |
Originally Posted by commandersander
(Post 3941222)
FYI....
Cast steel and stainless can absolutely be welded together. Stainless and aluminum, no.... 316ls I do it regularly......not heads to exhaust mind u....but cold stamped steel to stainless an fittings |
Ni rod for cast iron weld but why just buy a new one!???:daz:
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Just a pissed off guy who joined this month so he can *****. No response to any post and no pictures of this mark and (from what I am gathering) difficult welding job. You all are just talking to the wall now! :whistle:
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Hasn't Legend Marine group been posted on OSO before for buyer's beware? If I remember right, they wouldn't return someone's deposit for a boat that wasn't what it was supposed to be.
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Originally Posted by clovins
(Post 3941583)
Hasn't Legend Marine group been posted on OSO before for buyer's beware? If I remember right, they wouldn't return someone's deposit for a boat that wasn't what it was supposed to be.
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I bought my boat on consignment from Casey 13 years ago at IBC. He's been doing this A LONG time, I doubt he'd be running LMG if he were a crook, this many years later. JMO
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I've been dealing with Casey for many years and I will continue to do so for many more years.I'm sure there is more to this story than what has been presented.
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Originally Posted by gofastlvr
(Post 3940831)
I thought it was BOATT.... Break Out Another Ten Thousand!!
Maybe that is just me! |
Are you new to boating? You purchased a boat sight unseen? No survey, no test drive? And you're grumbling?
I flew to AZ to see my boat and I live in CT...sorry this is happening but you really need to look out for your best interests when doing something like this. A survey looks cheap compared to this now right? Where is this dude anyway? One post wonder? You have no credibility when you post, run, and hide. Not defending the dealer, I don't trust anyone, but you need to get a grip. For starters, show us some proof that what was represented is different than what you received. |
I purchased a boat from Casey about 13-14 years ago, before he moved to Legends. He was a very stand up guy and went out of his way to take care of some issues we had. I did make the trip to look at and test drive the boat first hand. By the way this was a boat I kept for 2 years and sold for a little more than I purchased it for!
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