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endeavor1 04-13-2009 05:16 PM

Props spinning in or out
 
Just curious as to which direction most of the Black Thunders are spinning their props. I understand the IN/OUT dilemma but just seein which works best on these particular boats. Thanks

excursion 04-13-2009 07:20 PM

The props should be spinning OUT .

Spinning in gives you nothing but stern lift and you loose almost all your docking abilities.

THLWL 04-13-2009 07:47 PM

BT's do not normally need stern lift. Hulls do the work very well of lifting the stern. Mine are spinning out.

endeavor1 04-13-2009 08:42 PM

Thanks guys, just wasnt sure, had staggered stepped fountains before this boat and the props always turned in. Is there a bunch of Black Thunders running BMAXs? Bob Jenkins has told me to leave them on the boat as he knows that more HP will be coming for me soon.... lol They just seem like overkill

DareDevil 04-13-2009 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by endeavor1 (Post 2843417)
Thanks guys, just wasnt sure, had staggered stepped fountains before this boat and the props always turned in. Is there a bunch of Black Thunders running BMAXs? Bob Jenkins has told me to leave them on the boat as he knows that more HP will be coming for me soon.... lol They just seem like overkill

Go to the APACHE section ,,,TRES MARTIN proofed me wrong and its vise versa ,,spining in gives u bow lift ,,NOT STERN LIFT !!!!!!!

excursion 04-14-2009 08:44 AM

Well i have done both with the BT and in is nothing but a cluster f,

Coolerman 04-14-2009 01:52 PM

side by side engine configurations on 46's BT's need them spinning out. It's easier to dock, and they are more stable. Spinning out also creates transom lift which the BT's actually need. And if you haven't had any issues with the Bmaxes, keep them on! :)

waconda 04-14-2009 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by endeavor1 (Post 2843417)
Thanks guys, just wasnt sure, had staggered stepped fountains before this boat and the props always turned in. Is there a bunch of Black Thunders running BMAXs? Bob Jenkins has told me to leave them on the boat as he knows that more HP will be coming for me soon.... lol They just seem like overkill

What power are you running?

endeavor1 04-15-2009 09:51 AM


Originally Posted by waconda (Post 2844367)
What power are you running?

500EFIs .... have one whipple for it and waiting to purchase the next. Hoping to see an honest 600hp with some reliablity

Spiker 04-15-2009 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by saxman (Post 2843977)
side by side engine configurations on 46's BT's need them spinning out. It's easier to dock, and they are more stable. Spinning out also creates transom lift which the BT's actually need. And if you haven't had any issues with the Bmaxes, keep them on! :)


Saxman which way are you with the staggered setup?

excursion 04-15-2009 04:12 PM

Watch out smacking the throttle to quick, stuff goes boom really fast.

Coolerman 04-20-2009 04:24 AM


Originally Posted by Spiker (Post 2844854)
Saxman which way are you with the staggered setup?

we are spinning in. Over 100mph, it needs to be spinning in otherwise it starts chine walking. The slower speed hulls (90mph and under) work best spinning out usually.

endeavor1 04-20-2009 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by excursion (Post 2844902)
Watch out smacking the throttle to quick, stuff goes boom really fast.

Well, after a solid day of running hard at a poker run, i blew another BMAX.:mad: Funny thing was, it was when i was giving the boat throttle to load it on the trailer. No more than 1500 rpm. No damage to the prop, like it would have struck something. Im killing these drives left and right. Any help, info, ideas, or know where some BMAX parts are at so i can carry spares. Also, is having a 1.36 ratio making these drives more prone to failure. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Pit 04-27-2009 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by endeavor1 (Post 2848208)
Well, after a solid day of running hard at a poker run, i blew another BMAX.:mad: Funny thing was, it was when i was giving the boat throttle to load it on the trailer. No more than 1500 rpm. No damage to the prop, like it would have struck something. Im killing these drives left and right. Any help, info, ideas, or know where some BMAX parts are at so i can carry spares. Also, is having a 1.36 ratio making these drives more prone to failure. Any help would be greatly appreciated.


We have a rebuilt form B max lower if you need one. It was one of our customers spares, he has sold his BT.

Mike




Maintaining the Leaders www.teammarineunlimited.com.

insatiable5 04-29-2009 06:00 AM

I have a 96 BT started with 800 merc's now 1100 hp
Holdbrook engine's, Livonia, MI. With 3A drives, 532 hours on
drives never been taken apart. Back lash with in rebuilt spec's
Big boat needs big drives !!!!! All I do is replaces U-joints every
100 to 125 hours and oil every 100 hours Get rid of those baby
Bravo's or what ever they are called !!!!!

BDARCHER 04-29-2009 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by insatiable5 (Post 2855051)
I have a 96 BT started with 800 merc's now 1100 hp
Holdbrook engine's, Livonia, MI. With 3A drives, 532 hours on
drives never been taken apart. Back lash with in rebuilt spec's
Big boat needs big drives !!!!! All I do is replaces U-joints every
100 to 125 hours and oil every 100 hours Get rid of those baby
Bravo's or what ever they are called !!!!!

LETS SEE SOME PICS
thanks Bob

Coolerman 04-30-2009 02:39 AM


Originally Posted by insatiable5 (Post 2855051)
I have a 96 BT started with 800 merc's now 1100 hp
Holdbrook engine's, Livonia, MI. With 3A drives, 532 hours on
drives never been taken apart. Back lash with in rebuilt spec's
Big boat needs big drives !!!!! All I do is replaces U-joints every
100 to 125 hours and oil every 100 hours Get rid of those baby
Bravo's or what ever they are called !!!!!

nice! What speeds ya seeing out of it?

insatiable5 05-03-2009 06:24 AM

Mid 90's, cruise 70 to 80 boat is heavy

insatiable5 05-03-2009 11:15 AM

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insatiable5 05-03-2009 11:16 AM

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insatiable5 05-03-2009 11:18 AM

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/t...a/P5190063.jpg

http://i605.photobucket.com/albums/t...a/P5150058.jpg

insatiable5 05-03-2009 11:20 AM

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DareDevil 05-03-2009 12:03 PM

N I C E !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ernaehrung004:

offshoredrillin 05-03-2009 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by daredevil (Post 2843511)
Go to the APACHE section ,,,TRES MARTIN proofed me wrong and its vise versa ,,spining in gives u bow lift ,,NOT STERN LIFT !!!!!!!

actually it was me that proved you wrong, again and Tres as well as a couple other people verified it. carry on :)

BDARCHER 05-03-2009 09:23 PM

Nice Ride

DareDevil 05-03-2009 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 2857946)
actually it was me that proved you wrong, again and Tres as well as a couple other people verified it. carry on :)

OK,OK Rob ,,,u and tres prooved me wrong !!!

Friends now ? LOL:grinser010:


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