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Originally Posted by A.O. Razor
(Post 3217151)
I would agree. I don't see any reason to wear a helmet on a fun day on the water, cruising around at 45-50 mph. But when your doing a poker run or anything else where your going 90+ for long periods, I do agree with Brian41, that helmets would be a good thing. With the standard being 100+ mph these days, the water is pretty hard if you hit it, not to mention if you crash with another boat. I think it's a bit like bicycle helmets, people have to get used to see others wear them.
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No thanks I'll take my chances, it's always hard to argue against anything safety related but my opinion is if safety was my primary concern I'd stay at the house locked in the basement. Instead I'll enjoy life the way it has been for many generations. The day life jackets and helmets are mandatory to go boating I'll sell my boat that day.
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About 20 years ago when I used to do a little racing in the APBA, they had an interesting take on helmets. They were mandatory, but also required a Lifeline vest. Why you might ask? Because the Lifeline vests have a special "skid collar" built in.
If you wore a helmet and a vest without a skid collar, you ran the risk of the helment "bucketing" (their term) as you slid feet first across the top of the water. When the helmet bucketed, the rear of the helmet would grab the water and snap your neck. Needless to say, I wore both. And, I decided not to wear a helmet without a Lifeline vest when I wasn't racing. |
Originally Posted by Too Stroked
(Post 3404745)
About 20 years ago when I used to do a little racing in the APBA, they had an interesting take on helmets. They were mandatory, but also required a Lifeline vest. Why you might ask? Because the Lifeline vests have a special "skid collar" built in.
If you wore a helmet and a vest without a skid collar, you ran the risk of the helment "bucketing" (their term) as you slid feet first across the top of the water. When the helmet bucketed, the rear of the helmet would grab the water and snap your neck. Needless to say, I wore both. And, I decided not to wear a helmet without a Lifeline vest when I wasn't racing. |
Originally Posted by mlb75
(Post 3384882)
No thanks I'll take my chances, it's always hard to argue against anything safety related but my opinion is if safety was my primary concern I'd stay at the house locked in the basement. Instead I'll enjoy life the way it has been for many generations. The day life jackets and helmets are mandatory to go boating I'll sell my boat that day.
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Originally Posted by A.O. Razor
(Post 3405159)
Very good point indeed TS. Never thought about that one. Do you still wear a helmet when running PR's, FR's, shootouts ect.?
I will agree that helmets - especially full face helments do make things more comfortable sometimes. The last club race I ever entered (and won) was on the Niagara River near Buffalo, NY and we had 2' waves and pouring / driving rain. I had an open face helmet and my navigator had a full face. By the time we finished, my face looked and felt like raw meat. |
Originally Posted by ECeptor
(Post 3383647)
No offense to you, but I think that cop is full of crap. No way someone is injured more by wearing a helmet sliding along the asphalt vs a bare head. Roads are like cheese graters on human flesh. I also don't believe his "died of burns" theory. The MotoGP guys wreck all the time and slide huge distances and many times get right up on their feet. No way in Hell they'd do that if they didn't have a helmet and full leathers.
With that said, a helmet and leathers won't help you if you hit something (like a guard railing or telephone pole) at speed. But, there is no doubt wearing full gear on your bike will reduce your risk and magnitude of injury. I can't believe a Hi-Po was so stupid to say something like that. +100 |
My bro and I used to rip the lagoons of Mystic Island N.J. & Great Bay in the late 70's-early 80's always wearing helmets & vests---
Greatbay vid from "85"---Damn I feel old! http://www.vimeo.com/3914089 http://i51.tinypic.com/11spjyx.jpg |
Do u guys think that 1 day helmets will be mandatory at Poker Runs ?.....for the lead pack boats going 150+... I just got back from DS last month, and there were a few boats out there going 170+ , even 185mph, no helmets.....
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Originally Posted by PokerRun388
(Post 3411052)
Do u guys think that 1 day helmets will be mandatory at Poker Runs ?.....for the lead pack boats going 150+... I just got back from DS last month, and there were a few boats out there going 170+ , even 185mph, no helmets.....
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Originally Posted by A.O. Razor
(Post 3411123)
Nah, not really. It is more or less up to the organizers of each PR and powerboat clubs ect. If anything, it would be a law regarding boats, capable of certain speeds,and not PR's alone. My bet is no it won't. My guess is, that the future will bring more speed limits thou. No expert on this, just my thoughts.
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Never worn one before our 1st race in Solomons. They are nice though! It really quiets the wind down and keeps you focused. Once we have intercoms in them, we may wear them often.
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Wouldn't wear a helmet unless I had a Hans device on at high speeds the helmet will actually break your neck when it grabs the water unless you have on the hans. Didn't read the whole post so someone might have answered this. This is my opinion but if you have ever been removed from a boat with one on you will understand how it could happen. Plus at some speeds helmets are not going to help you in an open cockpit boat.
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Originally Posted by B BOATER
(Post 3546221)
Wouldn't wear a helmet unless I had a Hans device on at high speeds the helmet will actually break your neck when it grabs the water unless you have on the hans. Didn't read the whole post so someone might have answered this. This is my opinion but if you have ever been removed from a boat with one on you will understand how it could happen. Plus at some speeds helmets are not going to help you in an open cockpit boat.
Originally Posted by Too Stroked
(Post 3404745)
About 20 years ago when I used to do a little racing in the APBA, they had an interesting take on helmets. They were mandatory, but also required a Lifeline vest. Why you might ask? Because the Lifeline vests have a special "skid collar" built in.
If you wore a helmet and a vest without a skid collar, you ran the risk of the helment "bucketing" (their term) as you slid feet first across the top of the water. When the helmet bucketed, the rear of the helmet would grab the water and snap your neck. Needless to say, I wore both. And, I decided not to wear a helmet without a Lifeline vest when I wasn't racing. |
i think the kayak helmets work good due to open design, allow water to move thru, instead of catch. the APBA required helmets back in the 80's, but the lifeline vest's were required due to the factor of speed. the consideration was not given to the fact that typical racing helmets acted like buckets when water came over top of boat. several racers were pulled out of boat do to that. the problem i have with hans device in boats, the helmet will pull you up and expose chest to pressure from water(crushed sternum) and if no facesheild crushed nasal cavity. bob nordskog came up with molded helmet, he felt it eliminated the concerns about regular helmets. i think i would rather have a "reinforced" windscreen and kayak helmet.
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