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bats05 08-19-2015 09:22 AM

2002 Checkmate 270 BR
 
Guys, appreciate a few opinions, I have no questions persay but just like a overall Impression of the 270 BR from checkmate owners Boat is equipped with 6.2 L. Any input would be wonderful, Always been a baja guy.

Thanks in advance for any input.. I want another cuddy and the wife would like a open bow,, this covers both options and just be a 2 year boat for us

Marginmn 08-19-2015 10:31 AM

I ordered a new one from the factory back in 2001 with a Merc 500 efi.

On the plus side Checkmates gel-coat is second to none. Checkmate builds a solid boat. The day I sold it some two years later it looked brand new.

Two things bugged me about that boat. It was a porpoise machine if you tried to give it any trim from around 25 mph until about 50 when it would finally come out of it. Basically throughout the entire cruising range you could not give it any trim or it would constantly do the up/down thing. Drove me nuts. Secondly, in a slow or moderate turn it would pitch over and scare the hell out of anybody who wasn't prepared for it to lean way over on its side.

Not show stoppers but over time those two things ate at me. Rode in a 28 Donzi ZXO and hands down it was a better hull - but they are more expensive.

Good boat for the money but it has a few quarks - as do many boats.

bats05 08-19-2015 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by Marginmn (Post 4344758)
I ordered a new one from the factory back in 2001 with a Merc 500 efi.

On the plus side Checkmates gel-coat is second to none. Checkmate builds a solid boat. The day I sold it some two years later it looked brand new.

Two things bugged me about that boat. It was a porpoise machine if you tried to give it any trim from around 25 mph until about 50 when it would finally come out of it. Basically throughout the entire cruising range you could not give it any trim or it would constantly do the up/down thing. Drove me nuts. Secondly, in a slow or moderate turn it would pitch over and scare the hell out of anybody who wasn't prepared for it to lean way over on its side.

Not show stoppers but over time those two things ate at me. Rode in a 28 Donzi ZXO and hands down it was a better hull - but they are more expensive.

Good boat for the money but it has a few quarks - as do many boats.

Porpoise is the main concern I have, I have witnessed this on several runs watching this boat run down the lake. The boat is immaculate with 240 hrs, which for 2 years and 20 hours a year I feel it will be good substitute until I make the jump I want in 2-3 years, I know the owner, very well maintained and very clean boat. Give and take on this model balances itself for what I feel I need at this time. price is fair and feel I can get a good return on investment in couple years

Marginmn 08-19-2015 11:06 AM

If porpoise is your main concern I'd give Kunkel marine a call and ask them if some 280 K-planes might eliminate it. They know all things Checkmate like no one else. I was going to try that but I rode in a 35 Fountain and it ruined me :) Checks are nice boats, don't mean to sound neg on them.

Kunkel Marine 3087 Park Ave W, Ontario, OH 44906
(419) 529-4446

Knot 4 Me 08-19-2015 12:36 PM

Yes, a set of 280's will make a totally different boat out of that 270.

bats05 08-19-2015 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Knot 4 Me (Post 4344845)
Yes, a set of 280's will make a totally different boat out of that 270.

Do not seem to be very many 270 BR available out there for comparison, 6.2 no the engine I would prefer but that is what it is,, Sacrifice that for the open bow that the wife would like.. Passed up a decent deal on 05 25 outlaw due the small cockpit area and not sure use the Cuddy

bats05 08-19-2015 01:30 PM

and at a good price point until I can jump into what I would really like to get into in couple years

Gimme Fuel 08-19-2015 02:56 PM

Put a Hydromotive QIV prop on and porpoise is gone. I have same issue with my 253. Still runs great on top end just needs a bit more trim and will run more level on the pad versus bow high.

6.2 is underpowered in a 270 imo

bats05 08-19-2015 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by Gimme Fuel (Post 4344917)
Put a Hydromotive QIV prop on and porpoise is gone. I have same issue with my 253. Still runs great on top end just needs a bit more trim and will run more level on the pad versus bow high.

6.2 is underpowered in a 270 imo

I agree but very clean boat, excellent shape and low hours. Not a scratch, ding on hull and interior is flawless minus one driver seat logo. They looked to be " screened " and not sewn? Any recommendations on repair there also I looked at the boat tonight and pick it up on Friday. midcabin is what we where looking for without spending 50-60 thousand on a sunny. Get the midcabin with much less out of the pocket I will research the prop you recommended for sure. What pitch would you recommend. 3 or 4 blade ? Also a new member to the checkmate crew

GeeterB 08-20-2015 08:41 AM

that is very underpowered for the size boat.

Gimme Fuel 08-20-2015 01:25 PM

The checkmate factory could send you a brand new seat cover to match the boat for not much money. They are very reasonable and give them the hull ID number, they keep the full build sheets and can replicate it easily.

The engine can always be sold and swapped out easily down the road as well, if it is clean and what you want, go for it. You would want a 4 blade prop which the Hydromotive QIV is. Hard to say pitch wise, depends if they put the 1.5 or 1.65 ratio drive behind that motor. Best would be to run what prop is on there WOT, and tell us the pitch and WOT rpm you hit. Need a baseline to go off of really.

Check out checkmate-boats.com that is the checkmate owners forum. Lots of great people and info over there.

bats05 08-21-2015 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Gimme Fuel (Post 4345312)
The checkmate factory could send you a brand new seat cover to match the boat for not much money. They are very reasonable and give them the hull ID number, they keep the full build sheets and can replicate it easily.

The engine can always be sold and swapped out easily down the road as well, if it is clean and what you want, go for it. You would want a 4 blade prop which the Hydromotive QIV is. Hard to say pitch wise, depends if they put the 1.5 or 1.65 ratio drive behind that motor. Best would be to run what prop is on there WOT, and tell us the pitch and WOT rpm you hit. Need a baseline to go off of really.

Check out checkmate-boats.com that is the checkmate owners forum. Lots of great people and info over there.

All I know at this point is its a 4 blade 19P, maybe try a 21, gears are 1.65. I will take it out this weekend and get a feel for it. I contacted Checkmate yesterday on the decal seat issues and looks like a good winter project. I can send the middle section in or send in the entire skin. see how it goes.

bats05 09-07-2015 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by bats05 (Post 4345701)
All I know at this point is its a 4 blade 19P, maybe try a 21, gears are 1.65. I will take it out this weekend and get a feel for it. I contacted Checkmate yesterday on the decal seat issues and looks like a good winter project. I can send the middle section in or send in the entire skin. see how it goes.

Well I took the boat out Labor Day weekend at the LOTO. Boat handled great took few trips figure out tabs and trim. But after thinking over a few options think I'm going to post the boat for sale. Just going different route for what we need but no complaints on how the boat performed

bats05 09-15-2015 02:37 PM

Boat has been on the market a couple weeks and only interest is Brokers and the typical Craiglist scams that is sending a guy over since the buyer is overseas.

bats05 09-15-2015 02:39 PM

Also have a typo. The boat is 01 not a 02 as I stated in the original post,,

formula1 10-05-2015 08:28 AM

How much you asking? How did the boat run...cruise & WOT? Any bouncing up and down like previously mentioned or did you switch out the props?

bats05 10-05-2015 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by formula1 (Post 4362437)
How much you asking? How did the boat run...cruise & WOT? Any bouncing up and down like previously mentioned or did you switch out the props?

Asking 26,500. Boat ran great,, Cruising speed was 40-45,, never did try WOT. Lake was busy on labor day weekend and we had out grandaughter with us.... I did not have any much trouble with porpoising just slight tab and was good to go..4 days over labor day is the only time I had it out..

BIGBREW 12-29-2015 01:40 PM

+1 on the Hydromotive prop!!


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