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prostock85 02-07-2008 02:16 PM

Chris Cat Weight?
 
I'm interested in purchasing a Chris Cat and I hear so many different weights, layups etc... How much does your or someone you know 30' cat weigh with big blocks and drives. Not looking for an exact just a much closer estimate then the ridiculous numbers I've gotten. If you don't mind also the approx weight of a steel trailer too. Just figuring out towing arrangements.

BTW, are these Kevlar or glass? thanks

jeffery s bennett 02-08-2008 11:10 AM

Mine is a 1984 CHRIS CAT with arneson asd8 drives and blown 800 hp motors on an all steel tripple axle trailer. when i first put it together 12 years ago, i heard all of the rumors and stories about how light or heavy they were. I was even told by a salesman who sold them back in the 80s that they had one that they could not even get to plane, due to weight. My asd8 drives are 700lbs each so there is more weight there than an outdrive, and my boat holds 200 gallons of fuel. That being said i weighed mine at the local moving co scale when it had naturally asperated 500s in it and it weighed 10,600lbs full of fuel. We figure the trailer is at least 2500 so your towed weight is at least 13,100lbs. I pull it easily with an f350 diesel single axle truck, and my previous 3/4 ton gas chevy also pulled it fine. They were built like tanks, maybe that is why they are still around and run great in snotty water.

jeffery s bennett 02-08-2008 11:11 AM

Sorry, i missed the Kevlar question, mine is supposed to be kevlar.

Gladhe8er 02-08-2008 09:03 PM

Over 10,000 sounds high, even full of fuel. I think our was like 6500-7000 plus about 4000 for the trailer. No kevlar that I know of.

wannabe 02-09-2008 12:17 PM

weight
 
I am going to weigh mine this summer but 8500 lbs is the number I have. That is Non- kevlar pleasure lay up, twin big blocks w/ trannies, speedmastrs. My Myco steel trailer weighs 2500 according to Myco- They found the original paperwork!

I doubt these boats weigh 10,000, similar 30' cats are less and the AO's are lighter still.

That puts me at 11,000 total, and my Avalanche 2500 with 4.10 axle is rated to pull 12,000. I am at my limit, and the truck feels about there without being over taxed. I did put the airbags on the truck and it made a HUGE improvement for pulling. Really smoothed out the ride for truck and boat. I pull w/ 50 psi per side.

Wannabe

jeffery s bennett 02-09-2008 02:59 PM

Apparently you guys know more that a certified scale. I also pull my buddy's 1982 38 cig and the total package does not feel much different than my CHRIS CAT. Mine is a former d class race boat(TROPIC HEAT), maybe it was built extra heavy:(, I do not know. I do know what it weighs.:D

wannabe 02-09-2008 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by jeffery s bennett (Post 2439234)
Apparently you guys know more that a certified scale. I also pull my buddy's 1982 38 cig and the total package does not feel much different than my CHRIS CAT. Mine is a former d class race boat(TROPIC HEAT), maybe it was built extra heavy:(, I do not know. I do know what it weighs.:D

Jeffey: I meant the pleasure boats. Yours is a former race boat, may be heavier and 200 gal.of fuel is 1600 lbs. the ASD's are probably 700 lbs more than outdrives. 10,600 - 700 is 9,900 lbs. Less 1600 lbs for fuel gives you 8,300 empty. Sounds close to my 8500 lb estimate. My boat has 2 - 65 gallon tanks i never go over 3/4 full. I believe your weight, not doubting that. I will find out this summer when I run my boat across the scales and may get the suprise of my life.

Still this is a great hull design- enjoy!

Cheers

jeffery s bennett 02-09-2008 03:25 PM

I am not trying to give you a hard time, I guess i have my guard up. The OSO crowd seems to jump at the chance to badmouth people who are giving honest answers to honest questions. Sorry:(

Rik 02-09-2008 05:33 PM

Jeff, the Arnesons on your boat weight 438 lbs each. A #6 Merc weighs 620 lbs each. This is now where your weight is coming from.

jeffery s bennett 02-09-2008 11:44 PM

Sorry RIK, according to what i was told my 16" drop box ASD8 with trim and steering was 685lbs. Do not get me wrong, i was responding to a question about CHRIS CAT weight. I LOVE MY ARNESONS and would not trade them if they weighed twice as much. If you want an endorsement, send someone to me!!!!:D:D:D

JEFF

Rik 02-10-2008 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by jeffery s bennett (Post 2439618)
Sorry RIK, according to what i was told my 16" drop box ASD8 with trim and steering was 685lbs. Do not get me wrong, i was responding to a question about CHRIS CAT weight. I LOVE MY ARNESONS and would not trade them if they weighed twice as much. If you want an endorsement, send someone to me!!!!:D:D:D

JEFF

That is the weight for a Bronze Drop Box drive not the aluminum housing you have.

I don't think we actually ever made a completely bronze unit.

wannabe 02-11-2008 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by jeffery s bennett (Post 2439255)
I am not trying to give you a hard time, I guess i have my guard up. The OSO crowd seems to jump at the chance to badmouth people who are giving honest answers to honest questions. Sorry:(

No Biggie..

I may get quite a suprise when I take my boat across the scales on the trailer. It may be heavier than I think.

Wannabe

Offshoreracr 02-11-2008 12:05 PM

Jeff,
Just curios how the weighed the boat with out the trailer. I did this once, took the whole rig truck boat & trailer over the scales and then went and put the boat in the water and went back to the scales with the truck and trailer. Then weighed the truck and trailer and then the truck with out the trailer to get the trailer weight. Pain in the a$$ process. Did they have a sling of some kind or did you do what I did?
Tommy

Dueclaws 02-11-2008 12:50 PM

When I owned it, I weighed my 1985 Chris Cat with trailer and trailer without boat on certified scales and the net was 8,500#.
Its a pleasure boat built with foam core, but the original "decorative" cabin interior was removed.
Due

wannabe 02-11-2008 02:53 PM

Due- this is what I heard from several sources but I need to confirm. Myco sent me a letter stating trailer weighs 2500#. I have some certified scales about 35 minutes from my house. Will try the disconnect thing from the truck this summer.

Wannabe

jeffery s bennett 02-11-2008 07:19 PM

Offshore,

I was lucky, :Dthe scale is about 4 miles from our marina so i did as you, weight it all then drop the boat at the marina and then weigh again. Hope this helps

Jeff

ccat30 02-12-2008 02:06 PM

My 85 Chris Cat with trailer and about 80gals of fuel was right at 12,200lbs at truck stop. Supercharged big blocks, Outdrives, cabin..

wannabe 02-12-2008 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by ccat30 (Post 2442579)
My 85 Chris Cat with trailer and about 80gals of fuel was right at 12,200lbs at truck stop. Supercharged big blocks, Outdrives, cabin..

CCAT30- I looked at your pictures and you have a Myco trailer also (painted primer black) so you have about 2500 lbs in that. You have speedmaster 2's also. Blowers do add some weight but that means the boat is about 9500 lbs equivalent weight. That's not far off - 80 gals gas is 640 lbs so boat empty is about 8800 lbs.

I know there are differences in these boats, so it is interesting to see what they weigh.

Wannabe

aex 02-27-2008 08:45 PM

I'm rstoring my old 86 Chris Race boat . I'm about ready to weigh the bare hull , I'll post the weight soon .

wannabe 10-03-2012 10:06 AM

Weight
 
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Boat and trailer weigh 10,940. Tanks 1/3 full. Trailer is 2450 so boat is 8,490. This is right where it should be for a pleasure version.

Wannabe

Stinger390X 10-07-2012 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by wannabe (Post 3789312)
Updating an older thread..

Boat and trailer weigh 10,940. Tanks 1/3 full. Trailer is 2450 so boat is 8,490. This is right where it should be for a pleasure version.

Wannabe

WOW!!! Love your boat Wannabe!
Could you post some more pics of the interior and if it has a cuddy? I love the radar arch too. Sets the boat off with that retro look.
Love it.....:thankyouthankyou:

wannabe 11-29-2012 01:43 PM

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Jolley 11-30-2012 09:02 AM

Nice Boat, Where on St.Clair do you keep it? We trailer from Cass Lake to St. Clair once in a while during the summer with the OE :):)

GTOKILLER 11-30-2012 11:08 AM

Nice boat! The weight was more then I expected, I'm sure its similar to mine. I pulled it home from TX it didn't feel like 10k behind the truck. Mine being a retired race boat would it be lighter or heavier??? SBC's, XR's & 2x 100 gal. tanks sits on a full aluminum trailer.

wannabe 12-01-2012 03:03 PM

I keep it on a trailer and dip it at Metro Beach or DNR ramp at Selfridge. Water levels are so low this summer it was really tough launching and retrieving.

The Chris Craft built cats were heavy. American Offshores were built with newer layup and lighter I am told.

Wannabe

aex 03-16-2013 08:25 AM

My 1986 weighed this week . Bare hull , no tanks , no cockpit , no engine hatches . 2940 lbs .

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...project-6.html

wannabe 03-17-2013 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by aex (Post 3886602)
My 1986 weighed this week . Bare hull , no tanks , no cockpit , no engine hatches . 2940 lbs .

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...project-6.html

I would have thought a little over 3000 being a race hull, but it sounds about right.

Wannabe

shootitup 03-21-2013 12:22 AM

It would be nice to get info CC top speeds in different setups / hp.

There are some info of AO31,s how they runs but less chris cats.

I have run (2x815hp) mine part throttle 5500rpm 101mph.
Calculating to the top rpm 6200, it shows
114.

So put infos, your owned, preowned or todays CC you know out there how they run top and what power rating.


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