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welfare racing 03-18-2015 08:00 AM

Chris cat with #2 drives
 
Looking at a CC that had #2's on it (now long gone) I have a set of TRS laying around, I know that #2's were longer drives

How much longer were the #2's and will the TRS still work well with the hull without moving the x dimension?

I will be canabalising one of my boats for this project as I have a complete driveline (TRS trans and Engines) for it

Tryong to keep this an inexpensive project

Biggus 03-18-2015 08:04 AM

SSMII is 1" longer than TRS. Should work ok with 4 blades

Unlimited jd 03-18-2015 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by welfare racing (Post 4280376)
Looking at a CC that had #2's on it (now long gone) I have a set of TRS laying around, I know that #2's were longer drives

How much longer were the #2's and will the TRS still work well with the hull without moving the x dimension?

I will be canabalising one of my boats for this project as I have a complete driveline (TRS trans and Engines) for it

Tryong to keep this an inexpensive project

Good luck I tried that, money already flowing like water lol

Biggus 03-18-2015 08:50 AM

TRS is stronger than SSMII as the SSMII had very weak lower pinion gears. Back in the day, it was pretty common to swap out Speedy II's with TRS. I've converted several Chris Cats from Speedy II's to Konrads. -Some of them were mounted pretty high also

welfare racing 03-18-2015 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4280388)
Good luck I tried that, money already flowing like water lol



As long as one doesnt fall in love with "bling" in the engine compartment it should be doable, Ive done it before and things turned out well and reasonable (hence using the TRS instead of IMCO's and all that jazz :), black or blue paint is my friend LOL,,,,you are right, if you dont keep the clamp on the pocket book it will flow quite quickly

welfare racing 03-19-2015 08:07 AM

Next question, how much shorter are TRS from SSM3 drives?

Looks like it had #3's not #2's

Trying to figurt out how much to lower the engines if needed to run the TRS

or how much I need to lower to potentially run bravo's, if I did it this way then it takes me away from a budjet build (not in the plan) looking to just fart around on the water

Biggus 03-19-2015 09:58 AM

SSM 3 is 24.311" input shaft to prop shaft

TRS 24.2"

Lee 03-19-2015 10:35 AM

FYI, There is a pair of SSM II's available fairly local to you.


Originally Posted by welfare racing (Post 4280376)
Looking at a CC that had #2's on it (now long gone) I have a set of TRS laying around, I know that #2's were longer drives

How much longer were the #2's and will the TRS still work well with the hull without moving the x dimension?

I will be canabalising one of my boats for this project as I have a complete driveline (TRS trans and Engines) for it

Tryong to keep this an inexpensive project


carolinacopters 03-22-2015 12:28 AM

I'm looking a right hand #2 or a pair if you know where I can find some?

TGC-32 03-23-2015 09:41 PM

Back in the 1980's when the Chris Cats first came out, they were originally equipped in base spec with TRS drives, and all were replaced at factory expense with Speedy II's. The TRS lowers couldn't handle the loads of surfacing and would basically "spit" the prop shafts due to carrier failures. So, basically I wouldn't go there as I would expect the same results! The Speedy II sits one inch lower, so you will have to raise the X by that much to properly surface the props or you will be giving up a bit of performance. Good luck! I love those old Chris Cats and would like to find one to restore at some point.

Biggus 03-24-2015 06:16 AM

The one's I had converted, we set the prop shafts 3/4" higher than the SSMII height. It seemed to work well with no issues

oceanperf 04-08-2015 10:39 AM

TRS wont work on Chris Cat. Lots of experience with that. I have SSMII's here. Best set up I remember was fours on boxes on drivelines. Chris

carolinacopters 04-08-2015 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by oceanperf (Post 4289347)
TRS wont work on Chris Cat. Lots of experience with that. I have SSMII's here. Best set up I remember was fours on boxes on drivelines. Chris

Do you have an extra RIGHTHAND 2 for sale?

oceanperf 04-16-2015 02:17 PM

I have a pair. I have to pull them out to let you know what kind of shape they are in.

Gladhe8er 04-17-2015 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by TGC-32 (Post 4283023)
Back in the 1980's when the Chris Cats first came out, they were originally equipped in base spec with TRS drives, and all were replaced at factory expense with Speedy II's. The TRS lowers couldn't handle the loads of surfacing and would basically "spit" the prop shafts due to carrier failures. So, basically I wouldn't go there as I would expect the same results! The Speedy II sits one inch lower, so you will have to raise the X by that much to properly surface the props or you will be giving up a bit of performance. Good luck! I love those old Chris Cats and would like to find one to restore at some point.

TGC-32 sold my Dad his new Chris Cat in 1985. My Dad backs this story up. TRS blew apart all the time. Went to II's and the problem was fixed. Getting on plane was a little harder though.

TGC-32 04-17-2015 10:03 PM

Man, what I wouldn't give to find your old man's Chris Cat! That was the best looking one of all, custom done in similar blue gel-coat to "Black Duck". If I could locate it, I sure would like to buy it and put some BIG power in it! I re-sold it for your dad back in the mid-90's to a guy from New Jersey, but I don't know what happened to it after that.

Gladhe8er 04-18-2015 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by TGC-32 (Post 4293546)
Man, what I wouldn't give to find your old man's Chris Cat! That was the best looking one of all, custom done in similar blue gel-coat to "Black Duck". If I could locate it, I sure would like to buy it and put some BIG power in it! I re-sold it for your dad back in the mid-90's to a guy from New Jersey, but I don't know what happened to it after that.

I have tried to find it with no luck either. I would consider buying it back as well if I sold my AT.

TGC-32 04-20-2015 09:28 PM

All right, if I find it I'll let you buy it. Seems only right for you to have it. You can take me for a ride in it!

Gladhe8er 04-22-2015 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by TGC-32 (Post 4294688)
All right, if I find it I'll let you buy it. Seems only right for you to have it. You can take me for a ride in it!

LOL! Deal!

oceanperf 04-23-2015 08:51 AM

Tommy, I have "Yo Boat" in my yard.

TGC-32 04-27-2015 06:00 PM

Whatcha got, Chris?

welfare racing 05-29-2015 11:19 AM

wow this posting changed lol


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