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Mike Baldwin 07-07-2005 09:03 AM

top gun holding tank
 
I have a friend with a 1997 top gun and it only has a 4gal holding tank in the head under the floor he asked if i would check with you, top gun guys to see if you have any thing different and were is it.

CIG3 07-07-2005 01:40 PM

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That is it. Most if not all Top Guns were set up to use the tank and/or pump overboard. I am looking at a 1992 owners manual that shows this.

BLee 07-07-2005 01:46 PM

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Yeah they really weren't built to be express cruisers. The new ones don't have one at all unless you specifically request one during construction. Mine has a portable one that has to be emptied manually. I have never let anyone use mine. It was never used on the 92 model had either. I'll get to a dock if someone needs to go that bad. :D

grimmy 07-07-2005 02:02 PM

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My 1993 Has Never Been Used As Well, How Do I Pump It Out If It Dose Get Used?

birdog 07-07-2005 02:58 PM

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There is a valve under the seat that makes it as big as you want ! :D

CigDaze 07-07-2005 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by birdog
There is a valve under the seat that makes it as big as you want ! :D

That's the only way! Who wants sht in their boat. :D

waterheater 07-07-2005 04:13 PM

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My TG has an enclosed head with electric flush, havent tried it yet. Cant you get it flushed out at the marina? This one is new to me. Any info would be appreciated

birdog 07-07-2005 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by CigDaze
That's the only way! Who wants sht in their boat. :D

There will be NO shting onboard !!!! & only pretty girls may use the head for anything !!!!.....Men will do as god intended us to do !! :D

grimmy 07-07-2005 08:04 PM

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no ****!!!!!!!!!!! haha, no pun

Doug 07-07-2005 10:21 PM

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I had to replace the one in my 90 TG last winter because the bottom was all rotted out. Thank god it hadn't been used for a long time and there was no smell or mess at all. I called the company that had a tag on it and they must have gone out of business or moved. I had a new one fabricated again out of aluminum the same size for $125.00. None of the plastic ones that I found would work. I think the fresh water tank on the other side is the same size.

waterheater, Yes I think all marines have a vacuum system to empty it. I think they are all the same but mine has 2 buttons the top one will bring in the water through the hull and then flush to the holding tank. There are two valves under the bench seat on that side. The small hose is for that water and if you open the valve with the large hose and push both buttons at the same time it will flush the holding tank through a masserater pump and then out the bottom. I guess that is a no no unless you are so many miles off shore so don't get caught with it left open.

birdog I tried to call you tonight and see how you are doing but no answer. I didn't leave a message.

birdog 07-08-2005 06:57 AM

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Sorry i missed you Doug....Been wondering what you were up to...I am a "trailer queen" this summer due to engine problems. :mad:

OldSchool 07-08-2005 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug
I called the company that had a tag on it and they must have gone out of business or moved. I had a new one fabricated again out of aluminum the same size for $125.00. .

They are still in business. A company name change and the phone # is still the same as the tag, but the area code was changed.

RDS Aluminum Products
850-584-6898
$141 for the tank with a two week turn around time

I ordered one last winter and it works great!

We (my wife and I) use the head on the boat for #1 only.......but I did take a large dump in the Bullet's head last week before the new owner picked it up!! :eek: :D :evilb: :drink: :evilb:

29scarab 07-08-2005 08:32 AM

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......but I did take a large dump in the Bullet's head last week before the new owner picked it up!! :eek: :D :evilb: :drink: :evilb:[/QUOTE]

Dude!! thats just WRONG!! :D :D

LMAO!

birdog 07-08-2005 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

We (my wife and I) use the head on the boat for #1 only.......but I did take a large dump in the Bullet's head last week before the new owner picked it up!! :eek: :D :evilb: :drink: :evilb:

HEY !...I did that with mine also !! :evilb: :D

Doug 07-08-2005 05:25 PM

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When you get a chance check this out. http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=101944
Up and running now, New crank, rods, pistons, valves, 3 sleeves, came off the Dyno warm on thursday around 4:40pm, Started them friday at 9:30pm friday night, went to bed at 2:00am after checking everything and up at 4:00 to head for Lake Michigan for a fun run and helicopter shoot.
Sorry to hear your out for a while. Be in Milford sun & mon I'll give you a call. Doug

birdog 07-08-2005 06:11 PM

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I saved my rods....everything else is junk tho ! Block included..
Need to find a tall deck Dart or Merlin.....
Call me Sun if you have time for lunch.....

waterheater 07-08-2005 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug
I had to replace the one in my 90 TG last winter because the bottom was all rotted out. Thank god it hadn't been used for a long time and there was no smell or mess at all. I called the company that had a tag on it and they must have gone out of business or moved. I had a new one fabricated again out of aluminum the same size for $125.00. None of the plastic ones that I found would work. I think the fresh water tank on the other side is the same size.

waterheater, Yes I think all marines have a vacuum system to empty it. I think they are all the same but mine has 2 buttons the top one will bring in the water through the hull and then flush to the holding tank. There are two valves under the bench seat on that side. The small hose is for that water and if you open the valve with the large hose and push both buttons at the same time it will flush the holding tank through a masserater pump and then out the bottom. I guess that is a no no unless you are so many miles off shore so don't get caught with it left open.

birdog I tried to call you tonight and see how you are doing but no answer. I didn't leave a message.

Doug thanks for the response. Today with the trailer issue i noticed 2 brass fittings thru hull about where the head is. Never noticed them before. Between the 2 strakes, are they for emptying or what? Is one an intake? Thanks

Doug 07-08-2005 09:52 PM

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I would say they are the ones. When you get a chance find them inside the boat and see if there are shut off valves on them. If you don't plan on using the head I would make sure there closed.

GLH 07-09-2005 06:59 AM

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4 Gallons seems like a lot of sh!t.


waterheater, the Peru Launch has a free head pumping out station.

BTW I would run it with water only to check if the whole system is still not leaking and creats vacum.

waterheater 07-09-2005 07:56 PM

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[QUOTE=GLH]4 Gallons seems like a lot of sh!t.


Well after a night of hanging out with you guys 4 gallons of sh!t the next day wont take long

Roger 1 10-15-2005 11:59 PM

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I just had to cut the one out of the Gun that I am re-doing. It was too big to fit through the hole but I could get a sawzall in there. I spent the next weekend with bleach, lysol and a hose! It`s much better now though. I think that a larger tank could be custom fitted in there, little taller at least.
If I do replace all the components I will fab one up myself out of 0.125 5052 aluminum instead of the 0.90 that was in there. I have been considering cutting down the area where the head was mounted and putting in and enclosure so I could mount a porta potty in there. I guess that there is just something about hauling around a sewer system that I don`t like.
Here are a couple of pictures. One is of a gun that I looked at a couple of years ago that had been converted and one of my nightmare.

Sydwayz 10-17-2005 12:57 PM

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Docmanrich37 came up with a 25 gallon bladder for his Active Thunder. Our ATs came with 6 gallon holding tanks that you have to pump out. Apparently he needs more than that. :D :D I think he paid $300 for the bladder and it is about as thick as a car tire.

Von Bongo 10-17-2005 03:11 PM

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I replaced one in a 93 gun and yep, you have to cut it out and RDS does still make them. Jabsco I think makes the pump. We redid the whole thing except the bowl.

I put in an access door so if anyone ever had to replace it they could remove the door and get the tank out. That had to be the worst designed system ever. Rather than replace it going to a porta potty and hooking into the pump out would have been the way to go.

1MOSES1 09-29-2019 04:43 PM

Need some help...we have never used our bathroom or water system for that matter. Long story short my friend poured water into the sink. Tried pumping it out yesterday with no success. Added some water and still nothing. Is there a valve that needs to be opened prior to pumping? Again not familiar with the system.

Full Force 09-29-2019 07:12 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4708469)
Need some help...we have never used our bathroom or water system for that matter. Long story short my friend poured water into the sink. Tried pumping it out yesterday with no success. Added some water and still nothing. Is there a valve that needs to be opened prior to pumping? Again not familiar with the system.

Sink drains out the side of the boat..

1MOSES1 09-29-2019 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4708485)
Sink drains out the side of the boat..

thanks for the info...in the future should we use the holding tank...is there any special process (I.e. valves that need to be open) in order to pump it out? we tried sucking it out and we didn’t see anything. No antifreeze nothing was coming out. Thanks

Full Force 09-30-2019 05:05 AM

No holding tank for sink, the head there is, you can pump out at a marina by sucking it out from the hull fitting, there is also a dump out hull but not supposed to do that unless 12 miles offshore..

1MOSES1 03-02-2020 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4708514)
No holding tank for sink, the head there is, you can pump out at a marina by sucking it out from the hull fitting, there is also a dump out hull but not supposed to do that unless 12 miles offshore..

another question on this topic...is there a valve on the waste water tank that would allow water to drain into the bilge? Tried filling it with antifreeze only to have it drain into the bilge...or is it likely rotted and need to be replaced? It drained fast which made me think that there was possibly a valve that was open.


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