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Lookin at this Gun. Any information would be appreciated. PM me if you will.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-6245.html

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I know it is a sweet lokking gun , but out of my price range for awhile! :( :(

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Nice rig.

Blowers so do a leak down by someone not associated with the seller.

Love that paint scheme.

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That thing is bad arss! Hope you have a little put aside for the Bravo fund though! :D

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Hey Tank. How's your new Gun treatin you? The Bravo fund...... I guess that IS the big question. Any personal experiences? PM me.

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Looks like a real sweet boat!
last summer we ran 100hrs in our 97 Gun with Merc 600SCs , one stock Bravo I and one XR drive, so she ate a drive or two prior to my purchase.
I think XRs are the ticket if you don't plan on turning up the wick in the near future.
Good luck!

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Awesome looking boat! I almost purchased a similar boat, but the Bravos scared me away. Bravos are much lighter, faster, and more efficient than SSM's, but I didn't want to worry every time I ran the boat.

I would also be concerned with the B&M blowers. I think Holley bought them out years ago and now parts are NLA for these models. If you had a blower tear up, you may be forced to buy two new blowers. I suggest you research these "older" B & M units, to be sure parts are available.

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I wouldn't worry much about the drives if your on a lake or river. Cigarette powered their bravo boats with Hawk 600's & 650's all the time when Barrie owned the company. If you're going to do any ocean running in rough water you might find something else. Still not that big a deal until close to 700hp if you service them as scheduled. Bravo's need to be rebuilt anyway after 70 hours or so, most just push it too long and blame the drive.

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Thanks to everyone for the info. So... will XR's bolt up in place of the Bravo-1's? What does the XR offer that is not found in the Bravo-1? Also.. What is a "Leak Down" test and how is it performed? The motors are more recient from Cheif. Not sure how old yet. Theyt are supposed to have about 70 hrs.

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I guess that this would mean that they are a pretty simple swap?

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xr's are the HD version of the bravo 1... it will swap right out

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Exactly !......God forbid you should run a Top Gun in rough water !!! :D .......I love not having to worry about my drives

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:D :D ME TOO!!!

Chewy, the Gun is treating us extremely well! we've had it out a few times and are having great fun with it. That is a really nice boat you're looking at. The problem with the guns are they are heavy and put a lot of load on the boat as you get it up on plane and re-enter the water after airing out. The stock bravo drive is only rated to 500hp. I had 650hp running through one and never had a problem but then again the boat only weighed like 4500 pounds. In my experience (through friends boats) Bravos & blowers= broken drives. Too much torque.

But like they said already, if you are mainly boating on a lake you dont have to worry about airing out too much. Though lakes are known for flat water and that also puts more load on the drive as well since the boat isnt sitting on top of the swells/large chop.

This may be another boat you might want to look at. They were asking 100k for it. Says the price has been dropped

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/9/9/79072799.htm

Grab a good mechanic and get the motors leaked down. Grab a good serveyer and have the boat serveyed to mostly insure theres no water in the hull (transom especially) and that the boat is in overall good condition.

Good luck bro, keep us posted on what happens.

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Tank that is not an origanal 3A boat somebody bought it repoed and was there project. I did my homework on that boat a long time ago, RUN. Steve

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WOW, that is interesting INDEED! :eek:

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A leakdown test is performed by pressurizing the cylinders through the spark plug holes one at a time with a calibrated amount of air and measuring the amount that leaks out of the cylinder. The air that leaks out can be traced to rings or valves by listening to the intake, exhaust and crankcase. This is usually done along with a compression test as the plugs are out anyway.
This is not an inexpensive procedure as the cylinders need to be brought to TDC compression by hand one at a time.
A qualified engine surveyor can give you your money's worth though as he will do infrared temp readings and oil pressure readings along with the compression and leakdown results.
As far as the B&M superchargers, I've had both of mine rebuilt with no problems getting the necessary parts. The shortcoming of the B&M units is that they have a fairly short lifespan between rebuilds. I pull the carbs and adaptors off at midseason and end-of-season to check for rotor and endplate scuffing.