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I'm looking at a few mid 90s guns. Some have TRS drives. Some have bravos. I'm assuming less potential for problems if the drives where factory installed, so here is my question:

Does anyone know what year they stopped using the TRS drive in the 38 Top Gun?

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If I can help call me 757 894 1066

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Called ya. You were most likely gone for the day. I'm on the West coast.

I'll touch base with you latter.

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I believe early 1994.

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I had a 1994 that was a Bravo boat and T/S had a 1993 that was a TRS boat; so somewhere in the middle.

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Some 94's had the TRS set ups with 454's.

They were busy burning out that old inventory.

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That would make sense given that the 1994 I was looking at had bravos. They appeared to be original.

Thanks for the info. :)

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And, thank you to everyone else. This place is the best when you need tech help.

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Had a 94 Cafe with Bravo so 1993-94 seems about it.

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I agree with 93-94. I had a 94 T/G with Bravos. When I was shopping for a Gun in that year range most all had Bravos if I recall right

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Harry can answer just about anything. (HMJudge)

Harry, it is GREAT to see you out and about in the community!

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The boat I was interested in was a 1994 with bravos. I was originally wanting to know if this thing had been converted. Went out to Dallas last week to take a look. What a mess it was! The only thing it had going for it was the original bravo drives.

My Gun search continues. :)

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Hurley,
Did you look at the TG at Extreme Marine ? The engines looked a mess from the photos they sent me.

ed

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Yep,
It was a complete joke. I called them a week prior to let them know I was coming out from California and wanted to water test the boat. Had my checkbook in hand and was ready to buy that thing providing it ran OK. The bar wasn't that high. All I really needed was to know it was complete given that I planned to restore most everything.

So, I get there on Monday and the sales people didn't even know I was coming. Mind you I had made several phone calls and sent several e-mails to the owner of the boat and salesman for that matter. There should have been no doubt I was coming.

So, I peel the cover off to find the boat full of water. I mean about 2 feet full wet from the transom to the cabin. Apparently they left the plugs in and had a rain storm a few weeks back. Ok, so they need a few hours to drain the water, Oh and charge the apparently new batteries that are dead. Most likely the dead batteries was from a short caused by the water. All the gauges and electrical were wet.

So, I'm talking to the mechanic who is pissed because he said that someone came out to look at this thing about a month ago and the same thing happend. That time they couldn't get one motor running. Apparently, frozen starter.

So, they finally get it running and their mechanic fires off about ten 5K revs (on each motor) about 10 seconds into the warm up. Boy did that impress me. Nothing like hammering a cold motor. At this point I just left. Didn't say a word just left.

The thing that really scared me off the most was the water soaking in the boat for weeks. All the dry rot horror stories I've heard on these boards kept running through my head. I did find wet wood under the cockpit. It was also clear the guys who regularly work on that boat are slap stick mechanics (I won't even begin to discuss this).

The funny thing is that if they had just cleaned the boat up a bit and had it running that day I would have bought it and not known about all the water.

Also, the guy who owns the boat wasn't willing to budge on the price. I figured that would be the least he could due given the fiasco. He said his buddy already said he would pay the asking price. After, that comment I told him to sell it to his buddy and it was a done deal for me.

Seriously, if anyone is interested in that boat PM me. I'll give you more information. Right now I'm looking at paying more for a cleaner boat or at least to buy one from someone that has a clue.

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Almost forgot, its not an original 100 hour "freshwater" boat, as advertised. Although, I kinda knew that before I went out to see the thing. :)

Unbelievable!

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Wow. What a story.

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Yup, clearly they didn't want to sell that boat very badly.

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Hurley,
I checked into that boat back in May when it was first listed. The pictures looked good and a board member looked at it for me also. They could not open the engine hatch due to dead batteries per dealer. Anyway asked a number of times for pictures of engine compartment and finally receive two and the engines looked as though they were corroded considerably more than 100 hour fresh water engine should look. I question this and the dealer stood by the low hour claim.
I though the owner may have swapped engines for the sale.

ed

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LMAO, I bet your friend was the guy they said came to look at it and they couldn't get it to start.

I was kinda wondering why you so easily sent me the pics of the boat you were looking at. I should have discussed this thing with you before I went out there. :)

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Is this the boat?

http://www.boats.com/sites/xtreme/ga...e&showMD=false

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fanatic,
that is the one.

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RUN!

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What a shame. That is a nice looking boat. :(

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In all honesty it needs work and everything is restorable.
I just couldn't get over the water issue.

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I know this post was from a while back... did you land a TG? I'm on the hunt. I'm in the LA area and wanted to see what you may have found. I'm looking for 90's/Bravo drives/525sc or better...
Thanks,
Terry
:)

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Get in touch with Pool Whore, he lives near you.
He bought my old Gun last year it's like NEW & is 4-sale
It's a 1991 Carbon fiber

LS

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theres a match made in heaven. :cool:

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Thanx for the plug, Bobby! Terryandalexa, shot you a PM. You are close enough to take a Sunday drive down the coast to Newport and take a spin on the Flamingo!

Hugh

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Hey Hugh, thanks for taking the time to chat yesterday about your Cig. Sounds like you've really taken good care of her. I even got the the wife excited to come check 'er out! Lookin' forward to it.
Terry

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Terry
One ride in that Gun & it will be your next toy.
I owned it for two years and put alot of time and money into it. It was one of my favorite Cigs. + you will have 7 mph over every other straight bottom Top Gun with equal power. Give me a call I can give you the full history of it. Hugh has brought it to the next level. There is no finer 90's Top Gun than THE PINK FLAMINGO.

Steve

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There is an advertisement I havent seen in a while !!

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A lot of bang for the buck !

LS

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KISMET!

It must be fate. Unbelievable to have people call from all around the country, only to have an interested party that lives so close. OSO is powerful. Terry is a cool guy from LA county that admires the sleek lines of these older Cigarette hulls. He is ready to inhale some salty air at speed and tackle the Pacific ocean with style and grace. Hopefully, the Flamingo will suit his needs.

SCOPE run to Catalina on Saturday the 25th. The weather forecast looks strong. Terry, are you in?

Hugh

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Wow! Well put my friend... I'll expand later on all that I am ready to take on with a 38' gun! That would be great to get out on the 25th... we're also coming down to your world tomorrow/Sunday the 18th in the am, would there be a good time to check out the Flamingo? I'll give you a call.
Terry

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Hugh,
Thanks for taking the time Sunday! I wish we could have stayed longer and did lunch or something ... Your boat is excellent! The drive back was full of adrenaline charged conversation! :D :D Alexa has already redesigned the color scheme of the interior! As you know we've got a couple to see ... OSO is awesome for helping connect up!

Does this pic look familiar?? Pretty cool... I found it in the OSO archives

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Nice pic

LS Jr. at the helm
Meta having a cocktail
LS rideing shotgun
Cashbar in the background
Lake Boca the location
Your new ride if your smart !

Lucky Strike

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Terry

If you were impressed with the way the boat looks on the trailer, wait until you feel the ride on the water! You will be blown away. I am looking forward to this weekend running with the SCOPE guys to Catalina. Weather forecast is looking nice and sunny. Perfect conditions for the "poodles".

Talk to you soon.

Hugh