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gripit 11-21-2005 06:44 PM

Shifters
 
What kind of shifters came on an 88 Bullet? Were the Merc Racing or Kief or ?

375stinger 11-21-2005 06:56 PM

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i no my 90 revo came with kiekhafer. i have price list for all cig models in 1990. ill chekc if it says nething about it on options list.

gripit 11-21-2005 07:25 PM

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They are the same ones in Stans Pic.

The Menace 11-21-2005 07:39 PM

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Those look like KK's to me. The KK's featured detents so when you advanced or retarded the throttles they would "click" into a position.

gripit 11-21-2005 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by expresscat39
Those look like KK's to me. The KK's featured detents so when you advanced or retarded the throttles they would "click" into a position.

The reason I'm trying to find out this info is one of my shifters detents doesn't seem to be working well. When I go from forward or reverse to neutral it doesn't seem to click. Therfore it makes it hard to find the perfect neurtal position. So, I was wondering what was wrong and what to adjust or replace. Any suggestions?

375stinger 11-21-2005 08:07 PM

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id unscrew throttles base and see iwats going on. ours are a pita to shift

gripit 11-21-2005 08:10 PM

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Anybody else ever had a similar isssue?

cig1988 11-22-2005 03:36 AM

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I've never had a problem. The detent works/clicks as it should.

gripit 11-22-2005 08:38 AM

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How do these things work? Can you shift into gear with engine off to test these shifters? What do you think my week link is?

Andy0331 11-22-2005 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gripit
How do these things work? Can you shift into gear with engine off to test these shifters? What do you think my week link is?

NO! Shifting with the engines off can/will bend your shift cables & make it hard to shift. Don't do it.

GoCiggie31 11-22-2005 08:58 AM

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I have the keik sticks with cables, and there are microswitches sandwiched in the controls. Pull the control assemble out and check it may be all crudded up like mine was, very simple set up.

gripit 11-22-2005 09:02 AM

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Do you know where to get new microswithes or cables?

GoCiggie31 11-22-2005 07:32 PM

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Trick marine has very fair prices on 26' and 24' 33c cables; sticks to control box and I used BAM for cables from box to drives.
Fred or Heath at Trick may direct you to the micro switches

Good luck

GoCiggie31 11-22-2005 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cig1988
I've never had a problem. The detent works/clicks as it should.

Craig,nice cockpit shot :D

cig1988 11-23-2005 03:29 AM

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Originally Posted by GoCiggie31
Craig,nice cockpit shot :D

"Stan"

Sean 11-23-2005 06:51 AM

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those shifter/throttle assemblies have ball bearings with springs that provide the "click" as the ball bearing enters the detent. that stuff can get corroded and sticky over time. i just rebuilt a set of these for my little boat and when re-assebled with the merc green grease work like brand-new! you can still get parts for these from merc dealer...

The Menace 11-23-2005 08:06 AM

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Sean is correct. The ball bearings are tiny little things and a PITA to get back in. You can pick up a new ones at Ace hardware. When reassembling place a little Vaseline in the detente area to hold the bearing in place.

When you take it apart they will fall all over the place.

By the way, KK sticks are reversible.

klaw 11-23-2005 09:37 AM

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can you move the shifyters from side to side if so ther are a couple plastic bushings that may be worn out also causong the limit switch to not activate in the neutral position go to Bams website and tehy have a exploded view of the shifters

here is a link lock under controls

http://www.mercruiserparts.com/selec..._nbr=41573+94H

thisistank 11-23-2005 01:08 PM

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You could replace them with some of these for a pretty good price. They make 'em with the round base now too like the laythum throttles.

http://www.livorsi.com/images/catalo...AT.009-1_1.jpg

gripit 11-23-2005 05:54 PM

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My shifter is number 15 in the diagram. What parts do I need here to rebuild.
http://www.mercruiserparts.com/Show_...PAGE+1+OF+2%29
Thanks

Tank, thanks for the suggestion, but I want to keep it original.

klaw 11-24-2005 08:02 AM

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the only real wear parts are the bushings #13 and #16 the slide plate.
Pull the shifters out and before dimantelling them see if you can feel any detent if not you prob lost the ball bearings and springs #21 and #22
I rebuilt mine about 2 years ago because the neutral safety switch was not being made and the shifters would wobble.

When you have them apart use a continuity checker to see if your neutral switch is ok or just replace when they ar apart since they are not expensive.

Remember to make sure when you reinstall the neutral switches are connect to the correct motors. I put male and femal plugs on them and on the port side shifter I used the male plug and on the starbord side used female plugs so if I ever removed them again it was a no brainer to plug back in I also extende the wires to make it easier to reinstall in the boat.
Take pictures as these can be assembleed in different configuration paying close attention to the way the bracket #21 is configuured. Also replace the cotter pins on the pins that hold in the shift cables.

if you have any question give me a call
815-236-5547

gripit 12-05-2005 02:16 PM

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Where do I find the Neutra Saftey switch on the diagram?

klaw 12-05-2005 02:29 PM

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Item 26
Before you buy new one pull the old ones out and check them Just put a continuity checker on them and activate see if switch closes

gripit 04-01-2006 05:34 PM

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Check out this problem. I pulled the shifters up only to find there are no neurtal saftey swithches. One of the previous ovwners must have removed them or relocated them. Can they be removed from the system? Or where else would they be?

thisistank 04-03-2006 04:38 PM

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Hey, you can always just buy the ones I just pulled out of the Gun from me!! :drink: Theyre black gafrig in pretty good shape.

CIG3 04-05-2006 03:21 PM

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Do you have bravo drives? If so you need the switch. If you have TRS which is rare the switch is in the trans.

Marc at BAM will hook you up. Looking at the diagram you will want to buy the assembly to eliminate the headache of trying to find screws and make wires. And while you have it apart take everyones sugestion and change the bushings. To Seans point use all the mercury grease you can without making a mess it will payoff in the long term.

My $.02

Sean 04-05-2006 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CIG3
Do you have bravo drives? If so you need the switch. If you have TRS which is rare the switch is in the trans.

Marc at BAM will hook you up. Looking at the diagram you will want to buy the assembly to eliminate the headache of trying to find screws and make wires. And while you have it apart take everyones sugestion and change the bushings. To Seans point use all the mercury grease you can without making a mess it will payoff in the long term.

My $.02

I thought on the Bravos, the neutral safety switch was on the motor and not in the controls...??

gripit 04-06-2006 08:35 AM

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Guys, I have TRS so the Neurtal Saftey switch is on the transmission. I just can't seem to locate the switch on the transmission.

CIG3 04-06-2006 09:16 AM

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It will be a screw in switch on the side of the trans. It will have two screws to connect the wires. A mercury engine wiring diagram will be handy to check the wiring is correct.


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