Mistress and cafe hulls
 

I have read time and time again that the 35 mistress was Don's favorite handling hull. How much difference is there between the mistress and the cafe? Is cg different?
I like the looks of both and really appreciate the ride in the mistress -- very solid-- Just thinking that a cafe is a little deeper and might make the right 'project' :rolleyes: .

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my mistress is so solid its amazing, flys level as can be, handles great, loves the big water. you can find em with #3's and bw 72c's and they are pretty bullet proof but mid 70's is top speed unless you run big power like i plan to :D

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Ratman -- I hear ya, the first time I rode in my buddy's I commented on how flat it flew, he's running 572's right about 76 mph with trs in all the right conditions. It does love the great lakes chop.
I'm trying to find out if the cafe handles and flies like this also, or if it was one of those things that got changed that shouldn't have. :rolleyes:

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I have 540's (675HP NA) and TRS in the mistress. Great ride. I run 74 on the GPS in a light chop. Not going to be the fastest, but sipping cocktails and relaxing while other boats are holding on for life is common. Can't compare with the Cafe because I haven't owned one. Either boat is going to put a smile on your face.

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Try asking mkramer and skramer.

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They both fly level. The mistress loves the water. I believe because of the trs drives and the center of gravity. My cafe loves to fly with a bravo setup. When I'm running my tabs in rough water my brother with the mistress isn't even thinking about it. Let me know if I can answer any more question.

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Anyone running a mistress w/ konrads yet?

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You are correct. Tabs on a mistress don't even come in to play. The boat runs true without adjustment.

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I'm thinking a set of Konrads and 700's NA in a cafe. I wonder how the 3A boats react w/wo tab? -- As that would be close to the Konrad set-up. And still be somewhat bulletproof.

As far as the tabs on the mistress -- do you think it's because of a heavier lay-up -- more weight forward?

And still need input on the bottom design -- is is the same or a bit different?

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I have an '85 Mistress with 3's (not A's) runs solid and true without even thinking of tabs. 498's with blowers low 70's ... trim the SSM's out to like 3-4 and she gets right up and out ... Flies like a 747 jumbo jet and lands just as smoooooth :cool:

Not sure on the Cafe vs. Mistress hull history.

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I think the hull design is the same. I also think they weigh the same amount. I feel the differance is in the engine and drive package. I've never been on a cafe with trs but they probably right identical to the mistresses. Just my .02

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I have an 86 Cafe with 557's and SSM #3's. The X-demension for SSM's is 3 inches higher than a TRS setup. It changes the CG a little. My boat needs a little tab but it still rides like a rock and flies level. Can't go wrong with either boat.

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I've only been a passenger on both......the mistress rides flatter and crushes the waves (no question about it).................the cafe has a tendecy to ride a little more nose up and want to fly as my brother has said (wave crusher also)........don't think your goin wrong either way...

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you dont know nothing about nothing, punk..... :evilb: :evilb:


i think the bravo cafes need a little tab, but the trs cafes run flat as can be.. i never run tab, only when conditions call for it.... im hoping that the konrads will react the same.....

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I Dont Know About A Cafe But My Mistress Weighs 6 Tons.

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I don't need to know nothing boy.........my brothers know it ALL!!!!! :drink: :drink:

Hope those Konrads work out for your cafe, I'm sure they will handle those big doggies you built under the hatch :eek:

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I suppose I will allow my Mistress (Smokin' Mistress) to be a test boat for new Konrad's. At no cost to me of course. Just so we can test the results and be informed. LOL!

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now you've done it........ :evilb: :evilb:

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:eek: :evilb: :eek: