Used Cafe vs. Top Gun Pricing
 

Out of curiousity... Why does it seem like a used Cafe has an asking price equal to or higher than a similar year and similarly rigged Top Gun (for example there are several late '80s and early 90's Guns and Cafe's in the classifieds in the $70s)?

I would have thought that the smaller Cafe would have been priced under the Top Guns.

When I was shopping, I was looking at Cafe's and Guns. For the most part I noticed I could get a slightly newer Cafe with bravos and newer power for about the same price as an older Gun with TRS's and older style power.

You need to look at the various variables. Old cabin, new cabin. New/updated features, drives, etc. I think if you compare apples to apples, say a 1995 Cafe with HP500's/Bravos to a 1995 Gun with HP500's and Bravos you'll find the Gun will be at least 15-20k more. That was my experience a couple of years ago when we bought our gun at least.

Both are great boats though. We were really leaning towards a Cafe before Philly got us this great deal on our gun.

Thanks Tank. Hopefully I'll get to have a look at your TG this summer. I hear its a sharp looking ride.

I guess it's sort of tough to get to apples to apples with all the variables huh?

Yea, we'll have to get you out on the Gun sometime this summer. Thanks for the compliment.

It is hard to compare pricing with all the variables. What I did was first figure out what I could afford. Then I figured out what I wanted. I knew I wanted a Cigarette and loved the Cafe's. I figured Guns were out of my price range. I knew I wanted the newer interior, newer grab handles, newer bolsters and a reliable package. Then when you look you start to settle in (and of course, always a little above:D ) your price range....This boat has this, this and this, but not this. This boat has this, this, and this but not that.

With our boat, I liked it had 3A's (less drive failure issues). I however wasn't extatic about the 525SC's. I didn't really want blowers again (again for more reliability). Everything else was what I wanted and Phil made the price an offer I could not refuse.

We had some other stuff done to it and are MORE than happy with the boat and the way it turned out.

If you want or need any help, let me know. I always like seeing more Cigs come over to the west coast and keep the brotherhood strong out here!:drink:

I'd love to grab a ride. I should be out all summer in either my Pantera or a Top Gun to be named later...

I'm looking forward to meeting and hanging out with more of you Scope guys.

Sean is going to check out my Gun first Tank....if he buys it, I'll be able to get th RR.....:rolleyes:

Tom

Oh mama!

Tom, I definately need to take closer look at your boat! Mega Loto is $130m right now. I've got a ticket in my pocket and I've got your cell phone number!

The party line right now is that I've been looking at boats "for a friend", but since he's decided to go and do something foolish, I don't have an excuse anymore!

:evilb: :evilb:

What year was the new interior introduced?

2000

Yes, the cover girl cabin came out in 2000 the updated full cabin on the Cafe and Guns came out in 90/91, and in my humble opinion is the best cabin layout of anyboat I've ever been on! That cooler (filled) is worth it's weight in gold:drink:

im not sure what you mean by the cover girl cabin came out in 2000 mine is a cover girl and i looked at one of phils boats a 97 all keyed up it was also a cover was it updated in 2000

Let me re-phrase that....Cigarette stopped making full cabins when they stopped making straight hulls. The twin step did not like the full cabin. I have seen one full cabin on a twin stepped boat but that's the only one I've ever seen and I heard it was custom ordered that way. (Though LSJr. assures me no T/S's were ever built with a full cabin:chimp: )

Prior to twin steps being built, if you wanted a "Cover girl" cabin you could special order it or convert the full cabin to half. Phil did a few.

Yours is the 35 Top Gun and it was right at the transition to the half/cover girl standard cabin.

Just like in 90/91/92 you'd see both styles of cabins on Cafe's and Guns. The older style full cabin and the newer style full cabin (before half cabins).