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TeamSaris 04-12-2007 08:57 PM

Good deal on a Gun...
 
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o15697-en.html



Too good to be true?

OL40SVX 04-12-2007 09:10 PM

It's a semms little low, but it just a good deal, and very true. I remember when the boat was new sitting in the show room.

TeamSaris 04-12-2007 09:11 PM

Damn, someone is getting a lotta boat for the money.

Jupiter Sunsation 04-13-2007 06:27 AM

You guys need to get a touch of reality! I love that boat and cockpit layout but if Lipship's new 38 with Zuls that runs 100 mph is only asking 395K, what makes you think this 3 year old 525 boat is worth anywhere near 309K? I know it is a 38 vs. 39 but remember that 06 39 w/700's was asking like 385K a couple of months ago.

tanner 04-13-2007 06:47 AM

And it isa little bit of an odd duck, with the center driver set up, and the cabin. It needs to be the right boat for someone... and 60k less !

customryder 04-13-2007 08:50 AM

that can be bought for high 200s I just could not live with the pirate thing. + the center steering is cool, but I did not like the homo seat.

pm203 04-13-2007 09:47 AM

Even though I am not crazy about the pirate theme and the pickle smoocher seats, that still is a good price. Granted, you could have Phil's for another 100 grand, but 100 grand is still 100 grand! (that's alot of money to some people)

Tom A. 04-13-2007 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2091751)
Even though I am not crazy about the pirate theme and the pickle smoocher seats, that still is a good price. Granted, you could have Phil's for another 100 grand, but 100 grand is still 100 grand! (that's alot of money to some people)

Pickle Smoocher:evilb: :evilb:

LMAO!

TeamSaris 04-13-2007 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2091751)
Even though I am not crazy about the pirate theme and the pickle smoocher seats, that still is a good price. Granted, you could have Phil's for another 100 grand, but 100 grand is still 100 grand! (that's alot of money to some people)

I Agree

Lucky Strike Jr 04-13-2007 01:24 PM

Here is another good deal on a 38 T/S with stock blue power

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o15093-en.html

maxonmike 04-13-2007 01:30 PM

The pirate theme is Ulgy!!!

TeamSaris 04-13-2007 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Lucky Strike Jr (Post 2091995)
Here is another good deal on a 38 T/S with stock blue power

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o15093-en.html

I wonder wich lucky s.o.b. owns that?:evilb:


If I had the money i would be on a plane to florida with cash in hand to buy your boat.

Stormrider 04-13-2007 03:06 PM

ff2, you think if you buy one, you can get the 2nd 1/2 off?

Jupiter Sunsation 04-13-2007 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2091751)
Even though I am not crazy about the pirate theme and the pickle smoocher seats, that still is a good price. Granted, you could have Phil's for another 100 grand, but 100 grand is still 100 grand! (that's alot of money to some people)

Ok, here is a Lipship/Zul boat for 305K with low hours:
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...-o8801-en.html

OL40SVX 04-13-2007 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation (Post 2092490)
Ok, here is a Lipship/Zul boat for 305K with low hours:
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...-o8801-en.html

Thats a 38 not a 39. They were probably around the same price new by ones a upgraded 38 and ones a 39 and both are 2005's. Both are good deals and boats.

Jupiter Sunsation 04-13-2007 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2092508)
Thats a 38 not a 39. They were probably around the same price new by ones a upgraded 38 and ones a 39 and both are 2005's. Both are good deals and boats.

I know the 38/39 difference but was a Lip Ship 38 with Zul 650's the same price as a stock 525 TGU? I always thought of a Lipship boat like an AMG Mercedes (as in big upgrade over stock).

OL40SVX 04-13-2007 08:40 PM

That was the first year of the 39 as well so the price was pretty high. I'm sure the 38 was a little more money but not alot. A Lip-Ship boat is just a Cigarette bought from Lip-Ship Performance which is a dealer. He does do some upgrades but nothing you cant have done by the factory through another dealer.

pm203 04-13-2007 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2092534)
That was the first year of the 39 as well so the price was pretty high. I'm sure the 38 was a little more money but not alot. A Lip-Ship boat is just a Cigarette bought from Lip-Ship Performance which is a dealer. He does do some upgrades but nothing you cant have done by the factory through another dealer.

Lip-Ship boats are among the best boats Cigarette puts out. Because Phil is so close to the factory and extremely fussy, he is there watching every detail very closely resulting in a better build from the factory. Also, Phil should be on the Cig R+D team, because alot of his upgrades make it into regular Cigarette production. Also, alot of Phil's boats have higher X-dimensions and lighter layups. Whether you like it or not, no dealer builds a better Cigarette than Phil. He is behind alot of the positive changes that you see on the new boats and a pioneer in the business.

OL40SVX 04-13-2007 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2092590)
Lip-Ship boats are among the best boats Cigarette puts out. Because Phil is so close to the factory and extremely fussy, he is there watching every detail very closely resulting in a better build from the factory. Also, Phil should be on the Cig R+D team, because alot of his upgrades make it into regular Cigarette production. Also, alot of Phil's boats have higher X-dimensions and lighter layups. Whether you like it or not, no dealer builds a better Cigarette than Phil. He is behind alot of the positive changes that you see on the new boats and a pioneer in the business.

You are right on many points. I'm not doubting Phils ability, we did buy our Gladiator from him. He does have the advantage that he is very close to the factory and can oversee a build and has alot of input into Cigarette about features and such. But I could also go to the other dealer and get a light layup boat with a higher x-dimension couldn't I??:rolleyes: Phil does build a great boat and ours represents that fully.

Stormrider 04-13-2007 10:12 PM

Does every dealer have such a tight relationship w/ ZUL?
Being in the NE, he's one of the best/biggest name in the area.
Phil does alot of custom touches after he gets the boat too.
As far as I understand, he's just not a dealer.

OL40SVX 04-13-2007 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2092606)
Does every dealer have such a tight relationship w/ ZUL?
Being in the NE, he's one of the best/biggest name in the area.

Just look at my signature!!

pm203 04-13-2007 10:20 PM

I don't mean to put any dealers down. You can buy a new Cigarette from any Cig dealer and get yourself a beautiful boat. But, if you study these boats very closely and look at all the details and quality, most of the time, a LIP-Ship boat will be a cut above. And, don't forget, Phil is exclusively Cigarette. That's all he does. And, that alone gives him the advantage over the other guys, not mentioning his proximity to the factory.

OL40SVX 04-13-2007 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2092617)
I don't mean to put any dealers down. You can buy a new Cigarette from any Cig dealer and get yourself a beautiful boat. But, if you study these boats very closely and look at all the details and quality, most of the time, a LIP-Ship boat will be a cut above. And, don't forget, Phil is exclusively Cigarette. That's all he does. And, that alone gives him the advantage over the other guys, not mentioning his proximity to the factory.

I guess thats fair to say.

pm203 04-13-2007 10:50 PM

Bottom line, I never met a Cigarette I didn,t like. :D

SKRAMER 04-14-2007 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2092650)
Bottom line, I never met a Cigarette I didn,t like. :D

True very true!!

BRD 04-14-2007 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2092617)
I don't mean to put any dealers down. You can buy a new Cigarette from any Cig dealer and get yourself a beautiful boat. But, if you study these boats very closely and look at all the details and quality, most of the time, a LIP-Ship boat will be a cut above. And, don't forget, Phil is exclusively Cigarette. That's all he does. And, that alone gives him the advantage over the other guys, not mentioning his proximity to the factory.

No question about that !:cool:


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