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ActiveFun 10-18-2007 07:34 PM

What Am I Missing?
 
Why is this boat only $269k for a 2007 when old boats are the same price?

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o18248-en.html

OldSchool 10-18-2007 07:40 PM

Maybe because it was the OSO boat and has hottie prints all over it????? Just a guess!!!:D:D:ernaehrung004:

ActiveFun 10-18-2007 07:52 PM

Then it would be even more money!

pm203 10-18-2007 09:56 PM

Don,t forget. It's going to cost about 30K to put some paint on that boat.

OL40SVX 10-18-2007 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2310549)
Don,t forget. It's going to cost about 30K to put some paint on that boat.

That and option it out like the other ones as well.

GLH 10-18-2007 10:26 PM

I like the paint now!

Pretty Timeless :D

ActiveFun 10-18-2007 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2310561)
That and option it out like the other ones as well.

I thought about the paint, what other options is it missing?

OL40SVX 10-18-2007 10:43 PM

Id say, sporty lowers, a GPS, ect... If it did have paint from the factory Im sure the dashes would be done up, paint, bezels, and rims. Also the interior would have more colors and such.

pm203 10-19-2007 08:30 AM

[QUOTE=Jupiter Sunsation;2310701]
Remember a new TS TG with paint/ 525's was only 240K in 04 so common sense should indicate that an 04 with an asking price of 200K is out of line.

QUOTE]

In 02, Guns were aprrox 240 ish with nice paint and equipment. In 04, that price was closer to 300K with anything under 280k being a very good price.My friend was just offered 250k for his 04 .Common sense does not apply to the Topgun, it has the highest residual value of any performance boat.

ActiveFun 10-19-2007 08:42 AM

Now there are a couple 04's with an asking price of $245k

pm203 10-19-2007 09:11 AM


Originally Posted by ActiveFun (Post 2310854)
Now there are a couple 04's with an asking price of $245k

Probably average boats in average condition. Still not bad , depreciation wise.

ActiveFun 10-19-2007 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2310884)
Probably average boats in average condition. Still not bad , depreciation wise.

These are pretty nice, I didnt think they were just average.

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o17475-en.html


http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o15419-en.html

Stormrider 10-19-2007 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by fountain40icbm (Post 2310603)
Id say, sporty lowers, a GPS, ect... If it did have paint from the factory Im sure the dashes would be done up, paint, bezels, and rims. Also the interior would have more colors and such.

I'd rather have spares, than glitz.

pm203 10-19-2007 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by ActiveFun (Post 2310894)

You don,t know untill you look at them. The second one is a lake boat which is good.

lucky strike 10-19-2007 09:54 AM

I know of 2004 TG with 525's that can be bought for $210,000

LS

pm203 10-19-2007 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by lucky strike (Post 2310944)
I know of 2004 TG with 525's that can be bought for $210,000

LS

And you might have to spend another 20-30k bringing it back. For instance, the Pirelli floor cannot even make it one year in Fl before it turns yellow and needs to be replaced. There are alot of details that need to be looked at if you want to make the typical 04 salt water boat a "10". Of course , there are always exceptions, but I am just talking on the average.

Cash Bar 10-19-2007 11:31 AM

The '07 in question is a "NEW" boat. As such, the factory, and Mercury, will back the product. Try to get that from a used boat owner. Also, since it was the OSO boat, it has been OVER maintained. OSO has everyone in the biz as friends, so it is never an issue.

Sure it needs paint(if that's what you like) but the little dress-up items are not that expensive and I am sure could be worked into a deal.

I've been on this boat several times and it runs like a raped ape. It is approx 800bs less than an equivalent TG. I have personally seen the care and maintenance given to this boat.

Besides, you can not compare that boat to an 04. 04 has old deck, old style interior, and old seats.

OSO 10-19-2007 11:40 AM

If anyone has questions about that boat feel free to call me, I do not own it but I ran it for the entire time.

Reason its still for sale, time of year and economy, there have been quite a few nibbles from what I hear.

Paint job 30k, that is retail price. You can get one done for almost half that with the right contacts.

Sydwayz 10-19-2007 12:17 PM

If whomever buys the boat, wants it painted, let me know. I've got a hook-up. :D

pm203 10-19-2007 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2311097)
If whomever buys the boat, wants it painted, let me know. I've got a hook-up. :D

Watercolors cannot be used on this boat.:D

Sydwayz 10-19-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2311168)
Watercolors cannot be used on this boat.:D

This No-Tech was custom painted for Jassby last year. Now this is custom! A couple cans of Krylon, handing from the ceiling on a string. :ernaehrung004: :D :cool-smiley-026:

sellsman11 10-19-2007 01:59 PM

Brian....can you do something like that with some tribal??:D

Sydwayz 10-19-2007 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by sellsman11 (Post 2311201)
Brian....can you do something like that with some tribal??:D

That's gonna cost ya. It would involve a cantilevered string and a protractor. :hitfan:



Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2311168)
Watercolors cannot be used on this boat.:D

If AudioFN or Too Old owned the boat, you could get away with such. Neither ever gets a boat wet. :drink:

pm203 10-19-2007 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2311189)
This No-Tech was custom painted for Jassby last year. Now this is custom! A couple cans of Krylon, handing from the ceiling on a string. :ernaehrung004: :D :cool-smiley-026:

Now, that is talent. I know it when I see it!

ActiveFun 10-19-2007 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 2311055)
The '07 in question is a "NEW" boat. As such, the factory, and Mercury, will back the product. Try to get that from a used boat owner. Also, since it was the OSO boat, it has been OVER maintained. OSO has everyone in the biz as friends, so it is never an issue.

Sure it needs paint(if that's what you like) but the little dress-up items are not that expensive and I am sure could be worked into a deal.

I've been on this boat several times and it runs like a raped ape. It is approx 800bs less than an equivalent TG. I have personally seen the care and maintenance given to this boat.

Besides, you can not compare that boat to an 04. 04 has old deck, old style interior, and old seats.

Hey. Sounds like it was a good deal. Maybe some of the others will come down. What year did they change the deck and seats? What exactly changed on the deck?

pm203 10-19-2007 06:21 PM

Please define new. Just being on a certificate of origin from the manufacturer with the warranty cards not punched doesn't make it new. I could be wrong, but I assume this boat has been on alot of poker runs and has more than a few hours on it. What do the hour meters read? Not knocking it, just asking.

Cash Bar 10-21-2007 10:11 AM

I believe it has about 70 hrs, but I am not sure. Most runs it has been on have been run at or near the rear as OSO likes to be able to help stranded boaters. Occasionally it would get in front early to get pics of the boats as they passed by.

Technically, it may or may not be new. However, as I said, it has definitely been over-maintained.

I believe it has been on 9 poker runs in 14 months. (?) However, it is rarely used for anything but PR events.

It is also stored inside and handled by an extremely capable staff including Cig's own people.

OSO 10-21-2007 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ActiveFun (Post 2311375)
Hey. Sounds like it was a good deal. Maybe some of the others will come down. What year did they change the deck and seats? What exactly changed on the deck?

05 was actual year 06 was the model year of the change, the deck is completely different. More rounded in the front, cockpit moved forward, more room in the engine room.

in 05 the newer seats started to enter the arena, see the attached pic number 1

also pictured is an 05 old deck and dash, new seats, pic number 2

06 new deck, dash, seats, ets as seen in pic 3.

you all might remember the 39 unlimited 05 models had the side by side "homo" seat as they called it. It was short lived. This was the same time the 38 was also introduced with the new deck, etc.

so 05 was the transition year for the 38. 05 was the start of the new 39 unlimited.

the link below is a 39 unlimited 05 with the homo seat.
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o15697-en.html

OSO 10-21-2007 06:00 PM

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as for the deck change, here is an 04 and and 07. see the change in the angle of the fairing and the pointiness versus the roundness of the point of the bow. Not to mention the pre 06 38's had a vent forward of the T/S marking on the side of the boat.

in order to see the roundness of the bow you need to see an overhead shot.

the older deck also had two deck hatches and two raised lines in the fiberglass vs the new has one hatch and no raised lines.

the difference in person is clearly obvious. the way to tell for sure is the old deck and cockpit had a map holder on the starboard side and two cupholders on the horizontal area in front of the passenger, the newer deck has that area on an angle.

06 was the absolute change year

Tom A. 10-22-2007 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2311425)
Please define new. Just being on a certificate of origin from the manufacturer with the warranty cards not punched doesn't make it new. I could be wrong, but I assume this boat has been on alot of poker runs and has more than a few hours on it. What do the hour meters read? Not knocking it, just asking.

I just bought the '03 38Comp that Donzi used as their promotion boat (boat shows / poker runs). The benefits to this were: Certificate of Origin = me as the original owner, full factory waranty on boat, and finance rate of a new boat (typically lower than the rates of a used boat). The engines and drives may or may not be under warranty but I am hoping not to need to find out!:p

pm203 10-22-2007 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by Tom A. (Post 2313262)
I just bought the '03 38Comp that Donzi used as their promotion boat (boat shows / poker runs). The benefits to this were: Certificate of Origin = me as the original owner, full factory waranty on boat, and finance rate of a new boat (typically lower than the rates of a used boat). The engines and drives may or may not be under warranty but I am hoping not to need to find out!:p

Full warrantys are nice!!

Jupiter Sunsation 10-27-2007 10:37 PM

Sold at the Lauderdale show today.


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