post us a picture.

Sorry I didn't mean to leave you guys hanging but I work 2nd shift 3:30pm-2am.

First of all I would like to apologies to merlin for getting off track from his original post. If I were you I would put your sign on ebay and set the reserve to what you think is fare and see what happens. Post the sale on the different boat site and watch it take off.

I would love to take this project on but working the hours I do 7 days a week I just can't. I used the internet and contacted commercial sign companies that produced neon sign and didn't have much luck. Then email the ones on ebay and it still wasn't working. I called a company here in Indianapolis and asked if they did custom work and told them what I wanted and they said no problem. I get a little stupid some times and if I want something it really doesn't matter how much $$$ or what I have to do to get. With that being said I don't think $300-$400 is going to do it. If it does I'll take another one. Ryan Beckley here on OSO did the Carbon Fiber graphic. With the size sheet he used for the large logo he filled extra space up with all sizes of smaller ones for me. What a great guy to do business with. Then I took it down to the company and dropped it off. They then mounted it on plexiglass. The unit that runs the neon I think runs around $150. and then the glass tubing and labor. I picked mine up but you guys are going to have to tack on shipping. I don't think a box with some bubble wrap is going to get. It should really be crated. I will wait for chuckd1025 to post a price and see how it compares to what I paid. Another reason I don't want to get to involved is I don't want to pi$$ the big guy off because that logo is copyrighted and you might need Skips pemission to mass produce.

Doug

Thank for the compliments. The rest of the bar.

That is awesome Doug!!!

I would be interested in a sign if anyone puts this together.:cool-smiley-027:

They dont call me Otis for NUTTIN

Very nice

Lets see what I have


Many OSO'ers have had the pleasure of being served at Otis's

Every time we have a party we have people pull in off the street and lake thinking its a regular bar

I would replace the Bud sign with a Cig sign in a heartbeat

Well I went to the shop today and got the quote on the signs. I can get them done for 500 + shipping. Doug after taking the picture to the shop they are pretty sure what all the materials are to make it like the one you have but if this goes through and people want to buy I would like to make sure so its just like the one you have. Also the shipping as the neon tubing is very easily broke as he stated it will have to be crated. Before i take any orders and if people are interested i'll definitely make a sample and take a picture so everyone knows what they are getting and satisfied. The more that buys the less they will be also. So if we can get 12-15 orders they will be around 450 a piece instead of the 500.

I know it is not Cigarette but I picked this up on ebay last year for $300.
Here is a link to one for $365 delivered for all my Jersey brothers.

http://cgi.ebay.com/BUDWEISER-BUD-LI...QQcmdZViewItem

I'm in for one!!!

Craig:cool-smiley-011:

I am in too!!!

I'm in if they can be installed outside.

I'm in for two if they look like this.

Alright, they can go outside i'll just have to know how many for outside as there is a different transformer for weather vs indoors.

count me in for 1 for sure. That will look real good in the bar

Please add me to the grand total. And BTW I have had simpler custom neon done several times and this is a great bargain.

I would love to have one also......

yea i'm in for at least 2 and might do more than that.

I've contacted Cigarette and I believe there is going to be a Licensing fee. The lady I spoke to said they are doing inventory and are being audited and it will be late next week before I can speak to the owner about being able to do this. If anyone has any other contact to pursue this faster please feel free. I just need the ok from them as there are so many of you that want one.

That carbon fiber looks nice! The only way to go.

Sign me up for one also!!

cig

as long as the sample is good I am in

mate, cool bar...you just need some big cigarette pics up there!.

Just 1 for outside...would it work inside as well or would I need the other transformer?

put me in for one

I recall reading several years ago that Skip's primary reason for buying the company was for the licensing potential. Kinda like the Harley Davidson thing.

I do agree with you, as owners we should merit a smaller fee than someone trying to build and sell for a profit. Maybe it is something they want to manufacture and sell themselves?? It would probably take a long time to bring to market.

It's non-commercial use and it's artwork. Covered under the Fair Use clause of the '76 Copyright Act. You don't need to pay Cig anything. Of course they'll tell you that you do.

Now your talking Chris. Thanks if that is accurate...

You da man Chris.... I have to ask after reading most all your posts...Are you an engineer or a lawyer, or both?:cool-smiley-011::cool-smiley-011:

A little of both, a degree in neither. I employ engineers and to keep up and be BS-proof, I've had to learn all I can about the field. It helps to have been born in a machine shop and race car fab co. I had a business partner for about 8 years that was an exceptionally well-accomplished attorney. I learned tons from him, plus (unfortunately) have had the opportunity to spend plenty of $$ on legal representation over the years. When I'm spending my hard earned $$, I like to know exactly what's going on.

One other consideration...

There's no such thing as the Intellectual Property Police. All a patent or trademark does is assign ownership rights. If someone infringes on them, it's the holders responsibility to secure them. USPTO has no enforcement department. In essence, the holder would have the entire burden of locating, investigating and litigating any claim. Then they would have to collect on any judgment they might receive. The worst possible scenario anyone could expect is to get a cease & desist from the holder's counsel.

I'm not suggesting that calling Cigarette would be a bad idea. They're good people and probably would have no problem with someone (an owner of their product) courteous enough to inquire before commissioning a piece of artwork- something they don't even offer themselves. But remember, there's scant difference between having one of these lights made and having a logo airbrushed onto the side of your boat.

Lastly, the core issue is individual vs. commercial use. You're not making these for profit.

Thanks


Im building a new house and will incorperate a few pics of my previous Cigs along with my new neon sign in the new bar

I spoke to Cigarette today and I am unable to make these signs. Anytime I use there logo and sell them to the public someone is making a profit. Therefore I cant get permission from the company to produce these signs. However they are getting bids from a few different sign shops including myself and will hopefully have these for sale on there website for everyone interested.Although the price may change there's not much I can do about that.Cigarette is a world leading performance boat company that just doesnt want there logo disrespected. Sometimes you'll see older cigarettes that have had the interior redone and it just doesnt look right and at the end of the day it makes cigarette look bad. So in all respect the right thing to do is wait for cigarette to get these made and hopefully i'll win the bid so everyone is satisfied with the product as it will look like the one in dougs bar.

What a bunch of sh*t!

way to go skip.....


thats why you just do it and ask later....

I can't believe that I now agree with you! :D

Its easier to ask for forgiveness than for permission. That sux! I want one as well but not for 2 grand.

They are bull$hitting you.

If this were true, no one would be allowed to paint Cig logos on boats.