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Feedback on racing a t/s gun
I'm looking at a new cig. I've had mine for a year and I'm ready to get a better one (just gotta sell mine first!)
Not sure what to go for...a non step again, or a twin step? I have never driven a twin step gun and I have read many mixed posts on them. Some of you guys swear by them, others dont. What does concern me is rolling one if I decide to race, which I probably will do. Are non steps better for racing because they are safer? I have read 3 out of four carbon fiber cigs rolled and that scares me. All feedback would be great on this |
I would buy a stepped boat, I own one, You have to learn how to run the boat. Educate yourself on hydrodynamics, what makes a step work for exanple and how to properly set the boat up.
The boat is not scary the operators are. Best of luck. Brad |
We have the 4rth T/S Carbon Fiber F2 that was raced and never rolled, Tres himself raced it, like brad said, just have to educate yourself and learn the boat,
btw its for sale, 2000 F2 t/s top gun, 125k |
The only people that havent rolled a twin step are those who havent raced one!! Pretty ill handling boat at race speeds. I know Tres will say that he had good luck, but lets face it.... if we all had Tres' skill then it would be a better world. For us mere mortals those boats have a very slight margin of error andthe penalty for stepping over the line is harsh. Enjoy!!
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dhlaw, what is the difference in a t/s top gun and an f2 t/s top gun, other than weight due to no cabin?
or are you saying all t/s guns fall under the slight margin of error? or even any t/s boat might fall under that same thing? we never raced ours but it seems to handle every bit as good if not better than the non f2 top guns i have been on with t/s, |
Originally Posted by bcschoe
(Post 2564942)
I would buy a stepped boat, I own one, You have to learn how to run the boat. Educate yourself on hydrodynamics, what makes a step work for exanple and how to properly set the boat up.
The boat is not scary the operators are. Best of luck. Brad If you want to have a realistic chance to win, buy the T/S. There are guys who race nonsteps fast, but they are few these days. |
If you can afford the boat, you can afford professional training on how to operate it.
I still remember all those cockpit videos of stepped-boat occupant ejections when they first hit the market. That has all but stopped. The learning curve is more of a cliff- but it doesn't have to be. It's just the techniques for running these boats is somewhat counterintuitave to ordinary boat handling. |
Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin
(Post 2565292)
counterintuitave
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Originally Posted by dhlaw
(Post 2565098)
The only people that havent rolled a twin step are those who havent raced one!! Pretty ill handling boat at race speeds. I know Tres will say that he had good luck, but lets face it.... if we all had Tres' skill then it would be a better world. For us mere mortals those boats have a very slight margin of error andthe penalty for stepping over the line is harsh. Enjoy!!
You were the first person I thought of when I read the thread. Good response Jr. |
Originally Posted by Boomer35
(Post 2564992)
We have the 4rth T/S Carbon Fiber F2 that was raced and never rolled, Tres himself raced it, like brad said, just have to educate yourself and learn the boat,
btw its for sale, 2000 F2 t/s top gun, 125k Did you alter the engines at all in it? So are you saying that lucky strike rolled? |
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Originally Posted by priceb
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Boomer, is your boat the Dmaxxx boat? i was seriously considering buying that about a year ago. But I took the cheap option of buying a cheap cig, but when you have to import it o/s it was a very stupid move as the costs amost matched the boat initial buy price.
Did you alter the engines at all in it? So are you saying that lucky strike rolled? here is a pic, its never too late to buy it! |
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So are you saying that lucky strike rolled?[/QUOTE] NEVER ROLLED IN IT'S LIFE ! |
Originally Posted by lucky strike
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NEVER ROLLED IN IT'S LIFE !
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Originally Posted by dhlaw
(Post 2565098)
The only people that havent rolled a twin step are those who havent raced one!! Pretty ill handling boat at race speeds. I know Tres will say that he had good luck, but lets face it.... if we all had Tres' skill then it would be a better world. For us mere mortals those boats have a very slight margin of error andthe penalty for stepping over the line is harsh. Enjoy!!
I raced a 2002 a 90 mph 38 TS in 2002 the entire APBA Pro Series. We never spun or rolled. We raced hard too. You have to know the limits of the boat. I'd do it again in a heartbeat. |
Originally Posted by THEJOKER
(Post 2566058)
I raced a 2002 a 90 mph 38 TS in 2002 the entire APBA Pro Series. We never spun or rolled. We raced hard too. You have to know the limits of the boat. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.
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Somebody out on the left coast I think.
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Originally Posted by Boomer35
(Post 2564992)
We have the 4rth T/S Carbon Fiber F2 that was raced and never rolled, Tres himself raced it, like brad said, just have to educate yourself and learn the boat,
btw its for sale, 2000 F2 t/s top gun, 125k He aint never going to let go of that boat !!!! Its his baby |
Originally Posted by dhlaw
(Post 2566026)
Keep telling yourself that........
There was ONLY 1 Cigarette F-2 top gun t/s that rolled. |
Originally Posted by dhlaw
(Post 2566063)
Who finally bought that boat?
Corey |
Originally Posted by lonestar382
(Post 2567325)
A gentleman in the Houston area bought it a couple of years ago. I was in contact with him about buying it at one time, but he decided not to sell. Don't know if its still on clear lake or not.
Corey |
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