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BDiggity 07-14-2008 11:11 AM

Vice production
 
Not that i am in the market for one, but seemed like a limited production run. Anyone know how many were actually made? I've only seen a blue & white one & a red/yellow/green one, both in mags.

scotte 07-14-2008 11:39 AM

I spoke to Tim from Cigarette last week and he said it was out of production, I was interested in one. (would have been perfect for my lake..candlewood in CT)

Holy Smokes 07-14-2008 12:19 PM

Unfortunately, the Vice was too expensive to build in comparison to the 38 & 39 TG's. You still have all the same systems in a 30' package versus a 38' package. In my opinion, most buyers that were looking at Cigs wanted something larger than 30'.

The same fate has happened to the Gladiator. Tim G from Cig told us the seamless hull/deck construction took many more hours to construct and most buyers would move up to a TG anyway.

Jupiter Sunsation 07-14-2008 01:25 PM

They are around if you look for them but it was a low production boat. There was a 525 one built with a watermelon paint job but most were 496 HO boats. For those who want a 30 Cigarette there is always the Mystique both in T/S and straight bottom design.

One Vice was destroyed in Katrina (silver/red) but it make come back to life in the salvage market.

skmulligan 07-14-2008 01:31 PM

Speaking of Mystiques', how come the one from Canada has listed on OSO not sold?

Anyone know of any problems?

I was considering looking at that boat pretty serious if mine sold.

dreamer 07-14-2008 02:02 PM

price....


ive been shopping and seeing whats what for 8 months now...

u guys have no idea how bad it is out there...

thisistank 07-14-2008 03:02 PM

The 30 was supposed to be an "entry level boat" for first time buyers. It was to only come with 496's but I think Phil put 525's into one. I think ony 5 were built. Like others said, Skip scrapped the project after sales were horribly low and the cost of production was high.

I'm sure if someone wanted a new one they'd build it for a price.

Boomer35 07-14-2008 03:15 PM

i'm suprised a 30' doesnt fit more people, for me it is the perfect boat, i could have looked at top guns the same yr or a few years older than my mystique but i wanted no part in the extra 8'...... the 30 is the perfect size for me...... for now.....!

Jupiter Sunsation 07-14-2008 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 2622800)
The 30 was supposed to be an "entry level boat" for first time buyers. It was to only come with 496's but I think Phil put 525's into one. I think ony 5 were built. Like others said, Skip scrapped the project after sales were horribly low and the cost of production was high.

I'm sure if someone wanted a new one they'd build it for a price.

Danny owned two 30 Vices before Phil built him the baby blue 42X- Powerboat Magazine boat. The 2nd 30 had 525's but he never took delivery of the boat since the 42X was in the pipeline. The 30-525 boat was advertised for like 290K when it was for sale which was insane then.

Jupiter Sunsation 07-14-2008 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by dreamer (Post 2622697)
price....


ive been shopping and seeing whats what for 8 months now...

u guys have no idea how bad it is out there...

Rephrase that last line,

"u guys don't want to believe how bad it is out there!"


Guys with 15-20 year old boats that were 150K new still think they are worth 100K because they did new vinyl, new trailer tires and a tune-up! :D

dreamer 07-14-2008 05:13 PM

just saw a demo 07 42 fountain stagger 525 go for @ 165

like new condition

lucky strike 07-14-2008 06:04 PM

In two months I think you will buy boats for alotttttttt less.
No matter what it is !

TexomaPowerboater 07-14-2008 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by Boomer35 (Post 2622815)
i'm suprised a 30' doesnt fit more people, for me it is the perfect boat, i could have looked at top guns the same yr or a few years older than my mystique but i wanted no part in the extra 8'...... the 30 is the perfect size for me...... for now.....!

It would be a good size for me too. I enjoy a little pucker factor, a 35+ boat were I'm at would just about alleviate all that.

Anybody know how fast it ran with 525's? Anybody seen one that was beefed up a little? Speeds? Do they drive well at higher speeds?

Boomer35 07-14-2008 07:16 PM

My Mystique has 500 EFI's i just rebuilt to 540's and i have seen 86mph, i think i have more to go too!

bmanafort 07-14-2008 08:15 PM

I looked for a 30 because it also worked for me in what I wanted to do. I could never imagine buying one new for what they cost but used they were reasonable.

nocigarette 07-15-2008 06:20 AM

I think they should build a #6 1075 single 30 footer......Man would that be a fun boat......Reliable package only one motor to worry about, and run in anything if ya got the stones.....

bmanafort 07-18-2008 06:41 AM

Scotte

Contact me if your interested in a Mystique.

Boomer35 07-18-2008 08:31 AM

bman what is your email?

bmanafort 07-19-2008 06:00 AM

[email protected] or 860 982 0630

bmanafort 07-19-2008 06:01 AM

If I sold my boat I would take the step and buy H20's playboy
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o24705-en.html

Magic Medicine 07-19-2008 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by bmanafort (Post 2627535)
Scotte

Contact me if your interested in a Mystique.

Saw your boat in the classys, nice Cig!

bmanafort 07-20-2008 07:08 PM

I tried to put a few of my favorite pictures in there

Biggus 07-21-2008 12:09 PM

3 Attachment(s)
Here's a couple of the fastest Mystique built. Man is this thing a blast to drive!!!!

seafordguy 07-21-2008 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 2629964)
Here's a couple of the fastest Mystique built. Man is this thing a blast to drive!!!!

Good Looking boat.....

Really cool paint - not too flashy, not too plain....

bmanafort 07-21-2008 03:53 PM

That is one of my favorites. Great boat with a great setup

RollWithIt 07-22-2008 12:53 AM

I think the reason they never sold well was the price. I was at the miami show when they first came out and was shocked at the price. You could buy a slightly used Top Gun for the same price. Always did like the lines on it though.

zzzzzz 07-22-2008 06:28 AM

Biggus, That is my FAVORITE boat of all time. Perfect size to trailor if you want, Big enough to go just about anywhere, and best of all FAST. It runs on Sebago? Must be nice when it gets roughed up a little.

skmulligan 07-22-2008 06:36 AM

I agree.

That is one bad a-- boat.

Anyone knows who owns her or where she's located?

TexomaPowerboater 07-23-2008 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by Biggus (Post 2629964)
Here's a couple of the fastest Mystique built. Man is this thing a blast to drive!!!!

What power and speeds?


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