My "New" Cigarette
 

I just bought my first boat. I bought it at an auction, so I have very little background information about it. It was described as a 1984 Cigarette Race Team Special Edition. 24' with 502 engine. I would appreciate any comments about it, including how much it might weight, and how fast it might go. I am getting a surveyor to show me how to operate it so that everything gets done properly. I will post a picture of it when I figure out how to do so.

Congrats.....

You have to be a member to post pictures... (best money you will spend the first moment you have a technical issue)

Some of the more seasoned members will surely know the stats on it.

Thanks. I just joined now, here is the picture. It is not me in the picture, it is the ad when the previous owner was selling it online. I will substitute a proper picture (e.g. with passenger in bikini) when I take some.

Good Luck !!

Are you sure that is "Cigarette" by brand? Do you have the HIN number?

I think it is, in that the previous owner says it is, and it is covered in Cigarette Racing Team Special Edition decals. I do not have the HIN number yet, I have not even found the hull plate.

I got it back from the garage today with new tires, brakes and wiring on the trailer, and $300 worth of premium in the tank. I knew that boating would be expensive, and it did not take long to see for myself. Tomorrow the surveyor is going to go through it with me, I should be able to get the HIN number then. So I could post it here, and someone might be able to tell me more about the boat? That would be great.

HIN number, at least on newer Cigs, is molded into the fiberglass on the starboard side of the transom.

That boat looks more like a Sutphen than a Cig. Look how the foredeck doesn't go all the way to the transom like a cig. It stops about 3/4 of the way back before were the engine intakes are located.

I can tell you it is not a Sutphen.

there was a thread on here a little while ago about that boat.

I think it has Airpacker's old motor in it if I remember correctly.

I think it is a splash of a Cigarette, not a 'real' cig per say. At least thats what I remember from the thread.

Do a search and find that thread.

Congrats on the new boat by the way!

i remember reading that. it was for sale on lake simcoe?

yep, Gord Brown's old boat. He has owned it for around 20 years I believe. The motor in the boat originally was in my powerplay. Its a gm crate performance short block properly clearanced and balanced by active engines. The heads are lightly ported merlin rec ports, the cam was custom ground by ultra dyne for the flow numbers and required rpm. The intake was a Victor jr. that I port matched to the heads( don't know if its still n there) as the past owner didn't want the dominator that was on the motor. He used a one piece holley 800 and a 2 inch tall 4150 to 4500 adapter. Kinda screwed up the torque curve a little. The bottom end had around 50 hrs when I sold it in 2001. No idea how its been cred for or maintained since then.

It originally dynoed at 547hp at 5400 rpm when built. Who knows now.

Where are you located?

Thanks for all the info. Yes, I bought it from Gord Brown. I live in Caledon, I am going to trailer it to Lake Ontario.

The engine has been detuned with a milder cam, Gord said that with the old cam, the engine was breaking. He estimates it is now more like 450hp. I have the original cam also, but I am not in a hurry to use it.

I am wondering how high I could reasonable take the engine rpm without compromising the reliability. I kept it to 3,200 the first time out.

Yes, I bought it at the auction at Crate's Marina.

Thanks. I can not find the thread, though I would really like to. I searched on combinations of Airpacker, 502, Cigarette, etc., but I could not find it, any hints would be appreciated.

is this a real 24 cig or not?

I don't know. I am hoping that some of the posters here who know about it will clarify. How do you tell?

on the upper right hand corner of the transom there will be a set of letters and numbers either molded into the gel coat or stamped on a piece of metal screwed onto the boat. That is your hull ID #. The first three letters are the manufacturers "code". For example, all Cigarettes start with "CRT". If it doesn't start with CRT its not a cig. It's definately not a firefox because cig started making them in 86 and they only built a handfull of them, 12 or 13 I think. And its not the "classic" 24, you can certainly tell that by looking at it. I'm not knocking your boat, I'm sure you'll have a lot of fun with it but I seriously question the authenticity of it being built by Cigarette Racing Team Inc.
If you post some more pictures of it I'm sure someone will be able to identify it.
Good luck with it.

here is a picture of a 24 Cig.

another

Thanks for the info Dave, the plot thickens....

I got the HIN, I had to sand off some corrosion to see it. The HIN is:

CRTZNR70011M83E.

Which is of course not a valid HIN. My guess would be that the real HIN is ZNR70011M83E. This would mean that it was made by Magnum Marine of Walkerville ON, according to the HIN database. This does not appear be the Magnum Marine of Don Aronow, but there does not seem to be much information about it. Does anyone know about this company or boat?

And I assume that when someone converted it into a Cigarette by sticking on all the Cigarette labels, they even took the time to engrave CRT onto the HIN plate. Why they would do that, and not replace it, is not clear.

So I know less now than I did before. If anyone has any insight into what this boat is, and how it got that way, I would love to hear it. Thanks.

im sorry, but were gonna have to ask you to leave.. please leave all cig t shirts and all cool stuff at the door... :evilb::evilb:

it sucks that your were duped... hope it works out for ya...
im sure you will find something out, it will just take some time..

stecz

Thanks for the sympathy. It does not really bother me, in that I just wanted a fast boat, and I am happy with it, and I feel that I got a good price. I would like to know more though. As for the cool stuff, I would trade it for equivalent Magnum stuff, bring your offers.