How about this one http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o18879-en.html

Isn't this another version of Cigarette "Fire Sales", the new thread!!!
Yikes here we go again....... why doesn't someone buy something and let all know how good a deal they got!!!!!!

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That is a good price for a 02 Top Gun, I bet they would consider offers

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o26101-en.html

kevin has hinted he's looking at a R/R or a Skater. You should throw him an offer and see if he bites.:cool:

yes it was, and yes it is :drink::drink:

Me like!!!!!!!

I bought a boat a few months back. I feel I paid a fair price to all involved. I got irritated when I was looking at other boats and they bashed my price of my trade. However wanted full price on theirs. These people are still sitting on their boats. The market is not there for boat sales. However I believe for the most part you get what you pay for.

I remember traveling to see a boat that is listed on here and the owner said it was turn key and I could sea trial it if I would like. Got there and one engine had no oil on dip stick and the other low. Shroud for drive line was busted and rubing. A lot of other little things broke. Then I remember spinning the #6 drives and there was no resistance. First time I spun a #6 and was told that was becasue it's a #6. Well it may have been a #6 but it was because it didn't have any drive lube in it. Called owner offered more then a fair offer and he countered with a rediculus offer. No deal and it was a great decision. Looking back the boat would have been nothing but trouble. I hope no one buys a boat off this guy because he has no idea about High performance boats other then how to beat the crap out of them.

The deals out there will likely be the problem boats in my opinion.

Dlaw - I was in the boat this Satuday.....boat is very nice....me like too....

Very rarely will you get a pristine, above average boat for a bargain price. While I agree that all boat prices have dropped, the top percentage of the nice stuff will still command significant more $$ than your average used boat. As they say, "you get what you pay for ". Don't forget, there will always be a majority of junk to average quality boats available to bargain hunters. If you want quality, you still have to step up. And with falling prices, todays stepping up price is still a bargain for the right boat when compared to prices of the past.

I'm having BLee send you a check. I will take the Bullet and second pick of the girls. :evilb:

Speaking of fire sales, this is either a scam or a misprint:

http://london.craigslist.co.uk/wan/815365383.html

scam
 

This boat was list a few months back. I think the asking price was around $ 90,000. It may have been listed here on OSO. The owner had a full write up on it.

You bought a very nice boat a few month's ago. Now it's gone..................everybody wants it?????

:rolleyes:thats it , thats the one i would look into

Won't buy mine either.....wait I am not selling:cool:

175k
 

I don't know anything about this one but it looks like a nice boat.

http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o24527-en.html

Blume you going to be at the FPC run in Nov. If so I would like to meet you.

Maybe, going to the Lauderdale show and thinking of staying and going on the run?

If I had room on my boat you'd be welcome. One of the guys on mine is T.J., he's one of the sales managers for Maratimo and will be at the Lauderdale show. I have 5 guys and myself doing the run. Should be a great time...

My Firefox will be at Phils for people to see if you all end up in or around TNT/Lip-Ships area.

It's going back to Texoma some time this Winter.

This thread sucks! :D

I personally would LOVE to see that guy get all of the money for that boat!!! D: :drink::ernaehrung004::evilb::grinser010:

All of us with older, re-done Cigs would love to see him get that kind of money for a 1992.

Great looking boat and great job on the re-do. It does look like a 10.

This is a bit off topic but what are the plusses and minus to a kevlar hull?

Great boat, my favorite straight bottom gun out there but........ the boat sold two years ago (sold by the guy who did the awesome restoration) and had an asking price of 185K which was a lot of money even back then. Current owner (who actually recycled the pics from the former seller's ad) was asking 250K last year and after having it for sale for a year he is down to 199K...... But as stated here by an expert Cigarette owner just because this owner bought the boat in fresher condition for less money two seasons ago it may not have depreciated at all but rather went up in value like gold or oil..........:drink:

01 TS Top Gun
 

Mine is for sale for about that. Fresh water,500EFI with Vortechs, Max Worx Billet Drives, 04 Manning Trailer like new in storage.101mph on GPS. If you want a fast boat that handles and is dialed in, this is it! It needs nothing, only 215hrs. Can e-mail photos

i cant imagine too many people like you around here... not sure why you talk about what everyones boat is worth.. do you ask all your buddies what they paid for their houses as well???? i have to say i think your out of line, its one thing to discuss in private what you think something is worth but you do it with every boat and have been doing it for quite some time.. are you even in the market to buy or do you like pising people off????

1. I can read OSO classifieds with prices posted. I do not post what I think a member's boat is worth specifically (that is rude, especially not seeing the boat in person).
2. Both Randy's TG and this Restored #6 Straight Gun are very memorable.
3. What you think of me is about as important as a day old newspaper.
4. Now is not the time to buy, but when snow hits the ground it is buying time.

Honestly Stecz whether people like it or not I am just commenting on the current market. I live and boat in S. FL which is the hottest powerboat market in the country (we boat year round, have inland/ ocean boating and a substantial amount of boats/ dealers). Now their are a few mint boats tucked away in barns/ garages all over America that will pull stronger money (like the 35 straight bottom sold recently at LOTO) but most of the stuff is just used fiberglass. What people are asking on some boats is no where near what they are being offered which is what I like to point out. Financing is tough, economy is tough, fuel/ insurance are at an all time high yet some sellers are still asking 2005 prices on boats that are older now which results in the long ads, stupid posts like "boat not selling, help."

I know of a mint 07 TG that is for sale and the guy cannot get a solid offer over 225K on the boat and that offer was more of a trade deal on a F430 Ferrari. Tons of excuses like no financing, got to sell a (house, RV, another boat) before getting the new boat. Tons of calls, not a lot of "players" in this game right now.

Think about it: How many people do you know actively shopping for a late model performance boat right now? How many ready to pull the trigger in the next 2 weeks/ month?
I can't think of a single person. Yet in years past it seemed every poker run (monthly) someone shows up with new hardware or had something on order. I only know one person (personally) who took delivery of a new boat in 2008. The Miami Boat Show Cigarettes (38,39) are still unsold from February! When have you ever seen that? Most of the time they are sold at the show and doing the MBS Poker Run the next week with FPC.......

blah, blah blah, yak yak yak...all you do is yak about how every boat posted "isn't worth it "...you need to shut your yap...simple enough? go hang in the sunsation forums and spew your drivel...

Jupiter,
You don't seem to be a bad guy. It's just that everyone is a little tired of your doom and gloom know it all attitude, especially, it seems when it comes to Cigarettes and their values. Personally, I thought you crossed the line when discussing Wild's boat. And, while you have brought up alot of good points, you also seem to enjoy ranking on people and what their perceived values are when selling their boat. Please stop trying to be the Cigarette NADA/Bluebook spokesperson know it all of OSO and use your knowledge in a more positive/productive manner that can benefit us all. Beating a dead horse helps no one.

this might be me but when a fella posts a sale price, we all know its padded cause he knows hes gonna get knocked down.. the game is to figure out the party that has to sell at your buying price.. its a very simple game, i dont see the need to speek of it in public.. there is one boat that was for sale that a friend of mine owns.. i know the price he got it and he has it 30 g higher than he bought it.. its none of my business, thats why they call it a private sale.....

Well said....

Here's something I wrote in another thread that I think applies...

To me, the bottom feeders are the ones (I wont say names) that continue to basically talk sh!t about others that are trying to sell their boats by saying "it's too much, over priced, not worth it" etc. The main problem with this is that these said people AREN'T EVEN INTERESTED IN THE BOAT. Just get on here and knock it.

Has nothing to do with getting a loan and I don't knock anyone that has a loan on their boat. Unless you're the one that can't afford the boat, can only qualify for 40k and keep coming on here talking sh!t to basically make yourself feel better that the market will get so soft you can afford the boat. To me, that's a bottom feeder.

And there is a negative connotaion with continually saying a boat(s) is over priced. You have a buyer and you have a seller. The sellers asking this price. The buyer keeps reading that it's too much on here and now believes it is just because someone esle cant' afford it.

Boats will sell and they'll sit. Makes no difference to me. Mines not for sale. But I'm not going to get on here and talk sh!t about someones price being too high. It's just f*cked up and doesn't look good. Basically a d!ck maneuvar to make negative comments about a boat someone has no stake in.

Yep, I'm that guy who wants it...

Hey Jeremy, did you see my post...

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...24#post2659124

...when you’re done havin' fun let me know. :cool:

Sold our Gun, a bit late to get into AMII. :mad::mad::mad:







http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...es/24386_1.jpg

http://s64.photobucket.com/albums/h1..._EBM2538v2.jpg

No more beating the dead horse.......but I will chuckle when I see the same boats for sale in March 09 for the same prices listed today, 6 months ago or even 2 years ago.
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Hey Stecz if someone makes a couple bucks along the way I could care less, I actually admire that. BUT usually they have to significantly improve the boat (not talking wax, new tires on the trailer) and/or buy the boat extremely right. Too many people think a tune up, new trailer tires/lights and a new big stereo is going to add monster value to a 5-10 year old boat they just bought retail the prior season.

I too have seen boats sell and know the specifics but wouldn't out anyone here on OSO. Let the new owner enjoy the boat and think they bought it right.......:drink:

Well, I have bought and sold a few Cigarettes in my day.... and this is what I have learned. There are always sellers that will overprice their boats for a number of reasons such as owing money, spending cash making repairs or just bought wrong. There are buyers that will just buy irrespective of slight price variations for quality boats but.....

I truly think that in these economic times that a seller that really wants to move a boat is being silly to not to seriously entertain a cash buyer, especially with a loan on thier boat. If they are making payments it doesnt take very long to eat up the price difference in payments. I have always been cognizant of the big picture when buying and tried to respectfully inform sellers of the benefits of having a cash buyer in front of you. It is sometimes not compelling though. I remember a certain TG TS with 575's that I amde an offer on right before I bought the TG that Rogman has. We were about $7k apart in price and I passed.... he sat on that boat for almost 2 years afterwards and now I see it for sale again. Its all about your position. If you can afford to let it sit then you are OK. If you think that prices are going to spike back up then hang on to it....... although reality will say otherwise.

Its going to be a tough few years for offshore boats. Here are the facts in thispost though, I have a cash buyer with $$ in my business account ready to move.... that should be pretty motivating!!

I've got no dog in this fight......but I'll set a ball on the tee and let you take a big swing at it. I'm just curious, that's all and my boat is NOT for sale and nothing is owed on it....but in your opinion, what is my boat worth?

1988 kevlar TG with twin 700 N/A's (all NEW parts, not rebuilt, 64 hours) 1450 Huber Cryptonite trannies, #6 wet-sumps with 46 hours (gone thru by Craig Collabella last Oct.). '02 raised hatch, Dave Hunter paint blah blah blah

....and an '05 15K trailer





What's it worth? I figure it's somewhere between 60 and 130K. What do you think?

Very good post Brett, it is the same thing in the car business, the thing is when the keyboard jockeys come on here and look at a 200K boat and say it is only worth 125K, or they would only pay 125K when 1, they cant even afford that. 2, they aren't even in the market. 3, people that are looking and may not be totally up to date on everything are getting conflicting info.
same boat same scenario listed for 200K the owner is into it for 175K and just wants to move it, someone like you offers the 175K and the deal is made, everyone is happy providing the boat is worth that price and passes survey. But if someone lo balls and offers 125K they don't have the right to get pissy on the net when the guy doesn't accept the offer. Bottom line is, we all know that asking price and selling price are different. there is also a difference between for sale and must sell.
Bottom line is people like JS that come on and bash everyone's deals being a keyboard genius screws it up for everyone.

Its an older gun but with 6's and money spent on the right things (power, new trailer) I would pay 100K all day long/ you could ask 120K and not be insane to the right buyer. 60K is what a clean trs/502 with refreshed power would be asking......

Sounds fair enough. Like I said it's not for sale, Mama wants a cruiser and we''ll get one in a few years. Hell, I really don't see a reason to ever sell it, it'll be a nice alternative to a floating condo!

Why are you all being so hard on this guy?:drink::party-smiley-004::ernaehrung004: