Bravo III versus Blackhawk on a 20
 

Well I was intending on going the Blackhawk route but they are getting scarce and pricey So I tam thinking of a Bravo III

Opinions?

What not a Bravo XR ITS Sportmaster setup?

from what I have read so far I am a littl econcerned about the healing over do to the non counter rotating aspect of the drive.

I am always interested in the top speed aspect but would also like to be able to pull a skier once in a while

I am looking fo a good all around performer but the rooster of the Blackhawk sure looks cool

I am also on a budget of sorts and after pricing the interior and drives I am about $5,000 over it so far so I think the ITS setup woould kill me LOL

I ran a 1995 20 with a Bravo 3 and Bravo 1. The three ran straight but was a bit touchy around the docks. The Bravo 1 was a better set up but it did have the list issue. The benefits outweighed the listing issue. A little tab fixed it. Mid range and top were great. Low end did not seem to suffer much with the single prop. It had the pad type bottom. I wanted to try the Blackhawk but never had an opportunity to.

RMS

surface drive

do you know what kind of money it would be for the surface drive set up?

There is a complete AD-6 for sale with tranny in classified is there room in engine comparment for the tranny and a big block?

I wouln't thank so.

Go bravo XR you'll be fine.

I saw that too. Would be an inexpensive way to go as it has a tranny also.

If the 20' will run with a Blackhawk then it will run with a proper surface drive.

depending on the hull you have plenty of choices, the older hulls have rocker built in to run any surface drive, the newer style has a pad. You can run an its and a shorty with long tabs and be very safe, lots of phils did this, the ones that are going for top speed run blackhawks and its...I'm not sure if I would want to be the skier fighting the rooster from a blackhawk or an asd...there isnt enough room for a BB, and a tranny in the bilge.

the hull is a 72 so no pad.yes the blackhawk would be wrong choice for a skier.
So my choices may be either av bravo or a bravo 3
What is the x dim for a blackhawk versus a bravo and bravo could it be rigged for a bravo and be able to swap a blackhawk on?

what about the new BIII with the shorty?

I believe Tom and Rick swapped out the xr's for the blackhawk, but I am not sure of the X that they have. Keep in mind that the BH is a surface drive, so the x will be higher. I have a BH and ITS and we should be cutting the transom in a month or so, the deck will be going back on in 2 weeks. I was told by Phil, to get the X as high as possible. for the BH, the bullet should be about even with the keel, or about a inch higher. But I also have 8 inches of setback. the guys at Falcon Marine in LI did Toms, maybe they can tell you if they changed the X or not.
as for the BIII, i don't believe there is a shorty version, if so, it might be an answer.

I will be having a complete rebuild thread on www.seriousoffshore.com coming in the next month or so, we just wanted to have plenty of pics to keep it going and interesting with not much lag time. I can also get pm's over there. some of the other things Dave and I are doing is making the sections to convert the older 20's over to a new style dash and cowl with having it pre made to cut down on others build time, and a new raised blower hatch with a pad as well as an integrated cooler w/ drain

...there isnt enough room for a BB, and a tranny in the bilge.[/QUOTE]

Mike Baldwin has a 20 with a Big Block / Borg Warner set up. It may be a 71c as they are an inch shorter than a 72c.

Mike Baldwin has a 20 with a Big Block / Borg Warner set up. It may be a 71c as they are an inch shorter than a 72c.[/QUOTE]
good point, I forgot about the trs boats, but didnt most of them have small blocks?

i have a 454 BB and a merc tran with TRS

Hey Klaw,

Here is a thread on Donzi.net that someone switched a blackhawk off of a Cig 20 with a Bravo I and an IMCO shorty.

http://www.donzi.net/forums/showthre...ackhawk+cig+20

:cool:

thank I had not looked for that thread yet