1988 top gun hull?
 

How does it compare/differ from the early to mid 90's hull?

thanks

I think the 88 hull did not have a transom notch. The notch is good for 3-5mph.

The cabin layout is different.

The pre 1990's (and some 1990 models) had the two couches on both sides. The 1990+ had the cocktail table downstairs and a cooler you can store a mob hit in on the right.

The pics below are of the Cafe Racer (the 35') but you get the picture. In the Top Gun technically the couch on the left in the old style has an extra seat sandwiched in, and in the Top Gun newer style cabin the couch actually flows into the V-berth as opposed to being a circular couch like in the Cafe Racer's. You can get the gist though....

Edit - last pic is of a TG cabin POST 1990....

thanks...does the lack of notch make for any better of a ride?

I believe that the only year that the top guns did'nt have a notch was 87.

My '88 has the notch

Cigrocket. In my experience, with my 1984 flatdeck, when I put a notch in the transom, I did not pick up 3-5 mph. The only way you will pick up the 3-5 mph with the notch is to also raise the drive height. The notch with #3 or #3A drives puts the prop shaft really "deep" into the water and, in my opinion, negates the notch.

1987 no notch, 1988 was the transition year.

I am with RMPRman on this one,,,,,,the only reason why boatbuilders made a notched transomhull was to raise the drive hight to make up for an extensionbox,,,,because thats basicly what it is just built into the hull .

DRAG slows u down and less you have faster u go,,but since the back of the hull is mostly /always in the water that drag is natural so the drives had to go up atleast 4-6 inches to make more speed with same power.
So boats that had thru V and #3's now had a notched transom and #5's ,,,thats what made them faster !!!!!!!!

I know most of you dont like me ,,and i dont whant to be a smarta$$ ,,,but this is absolutly the reason for a notch.

Later the steps where ment to raise the drivehight even more and need to be to get the boat on plane without losing handling in the ruff,,,,we all know that did not realy work so well. LOL

My other Cig TG the 88' didn't have one but my 90' does...not to mention I thought the overall weight changed over the years (at least as stated in the NADA under dry weight) and yes I realize the NADA could be wrong..i'm just going off what I read.

1988 - 9,800lbs
1989 - 11,000lbs
1990 - 9,800lbs
1991 - 10,000lbs
1992 - 11,000lbs
1993 - 10,500lbs
1994 - 11,000lbs
1995 - 11,000lbs
1996 - 11,000lbs
1997 - 11,000lbs
1998 - 11,000lbs

Just my .02 but a straight bottom is a straight bottom so if a hull is in good shape wouldn't you want a light one...and yes there are kevlar and one offs made

What this does'nt tell you is what drive and engine appl.,,,,,also your only talking 500 pounds +/- thats not even to worry about in my book.
In a straight V i would take the heaviest one !!!!!! twin 1200's and of we go. LOL:evilb:

I've found the ride difference between the two to be quite substantial. I own a 1989 'Gun, blower motors, Was TRS now Konrad. Old style cabin.

My buddy restored a 1992 'Gun, blower motors, Konrad drives, pretty much the same everything except the cabin lay out.

My old '89 rides great, no porpoise, very little tab needed on flat water. The '92 'Gun needed quite a bit more tab to control porpoise in flat water. The boat felt much lighter in the nose.

The difference in weight in the cabin layout between the to is very noticeable when riding in one and hopping in the other. The early cabin has a solid floor under the V berth. The newer cabin has the trampoline like material under the v berth pad. I do not know for sure but I'd bet my '89 Gun could possibly weigh 200-300 more lbs in the nose most
likely delivering a better ride than the newer 1992 boat.

.02 -Kurt

Exactly what i see with my 93 TG with Vs....A friends 87 with Vs rides much flatter than mine

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The early cabin has a solid floor under the V berth. The newer cabin has the trampoline like material under the v berth pad.

Hey Kurt what do you mean by this???? in my V berth I have a rectangular cut out that has rotating latches that allows me pop the piece out and there is a small storage compartment mybe 6inchs deep....what this trampoline like material you're referencing??

Thanks
B

[QUOTE=Kool-Aid Man;2787755]I think in the old ones they used plywood and the newer ones had lighter core,,like plasticcore or something similar, which saved weight and had the same structural benefits.

On the older style cabins ('87-90), the berth is flat. Mine has a compartment under it. :cool:

When the next style cabin came out, the bed cushions are suspended on a webbed material. In my opinion, that newer style cabin was a better layout, but the berth sucks...especially if there are two people becuase you roll towards the center like being in a hammock.. A friend of mine cut that stuff out and installed plywood in there under the cushions. Works mucho better!:ernaehrung004:

Here is a picture of the ancient layout :D It's a '88