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Gladiator no more ?
has this model been discontinued ?
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i thought i read they will still make it via special order. im sure special pricing applies.
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I seem to recall a recent post that had the last gladiator in it. 700's and NXT's maybe?
Found it. http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...p-edition.html |
I read or was told somewhere that the labor involved in the lack of rub rail was part of the issue.
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Originally Posted by BDiggity
(Post 2802984)
i thought i read they will still make it via special order. im sure special pricing applies.
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Originally Posted by bmanafort
(Post 2803135)
I read or was told somewhere that the labor involved in the lack of rub rail was part of the issue.
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good "reason".... i doubt it though
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The rubrail was one of the big issues. Skip claimed it was an extra minimum 40 man hours to do this. It is very labor intensive and didn't fit into Skip's profit margin levels.
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PM, figured it out, thats why the Glads hold there value well...thanks,:ernaehrung004:
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Did Cig sell the molds to anyone or are they just keeping them around? The Gladiator is the sexiest Cig around.
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Originally Posted by Dredgeking
(Post 2907791)
Did Cig sell the molds to anyone or are they just keeping them around? The Gladiator is the sexiest Cig around.
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Originally Posted by pm203
(Post 2809013)
The rubrail was one of the big issues. Skip claimed it was an extra minimum 40 man hours to do this. It is very labor intensive and didn't fit into Skip's profit margin levels.
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Wow, 40 man hours. That's lets see....at $20 an hour that's $800.00 more to build the gladiator.
Doesn't add up to a discontinued model. Maybe 400 man hours? Still the things listed near what a top gun was and you don't have the materials and time spent on the cabin. Obviously they didn't want to make it for some reason. |
Originally Posted by Von Bongo
(Post 2911791)
Wow, 40 man hours. That's lets see....at $20 an hour that's $800.00 more to build the gladiator.
Doesn't add up to a discontinued model. Maybe 400 man hours? Still the things listed near what a top gun was and you don't have the materials and time spent on the cabin. Obviously they didn't want to make it for some reason. Ok Tank - get us the real reason. :) |
Maybe I was a little light on the hours. If you ask anyone in the industry, they will tell you that the no rubrail look is very labor intensive. Much harder than to say adding a cabin. There is a ton of work to do it right. I think the profit margin just wasn't there. For what Skip would have to charge, it didn't make good business sense. Also, I think the demand for a no-cabin sit down boat is a small market these days. Skip will still build one, but it won't be cheap.
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I think they just re-did the bottoms before they discontinued them. Could it also be a safety/liability concern? :flag:
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I have heard of a bottom redesign somewhere between the 03' and 04' models, is that what you mean?
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i thought it was more like 05-06
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Bottom re-do was on the 03's and up. As far as liability concerns? Don't be ridiculous. The demise of the Gladiator is due to $$ and profit margins coupled with demand.
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I heard it was because Skip had to pay someone for every Gladiator that was built. I forgot whom the gentleman was but that is good inside info. Anyone know whom that may be? I t was whom ever designed the Gladiator. Surely I'm not the only one whom was told that. Right Greek?
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Michael Peters?
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Originally Posted by Von Bongo
(Post 2911791)
Wow, 40 man hours. That's lets see....at $20 an hour that's $800.00 more to build the gladiator.
Doesn't add up to a discontinued model. Maybe 400 man hours? Still the things listed near what a top gun was and you don't have the materials and time spent on the cabin. Obviously they didn't want to make it for some reason. |
even at 100 per hr thats only $4000 extra, and no cabin should also help the price, oh well its gone anyway
I bet if you really want one they will me you one, especially in this economy |
All I can say, is that when the most experienced, knowledgeable Cigarette guy on the planet wanted to build his own personal ride, he built a Gladiator.
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