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Terry_Cat 02-18-2009 12:00 PM

Gladiator no more ?
 
has this model been discontinued ?

BDiggity 02-18-2009 12:09 PM

i thought i read they will still make it via special order. im sure special pricing applies.

seafordguy 02-18-2009 01:31 PM

I seem to recall a recent post that had the last gladiator in it. 700's and NXT's maybe?

Found it.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...p-edition.html

bmanafort 02-18-2009 03:03 PM

I read or was told somewhere that the labor involved in the lack of rub rail was part of the issue.

ManBayBoatClub 02-18-2009 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by BDiggity (Post 2802984)
i thought i read they will still make it via special order. im sure special pricing applies.

Yes thats right. They still have the mold and can make one upon request. But, its not in any new brochures or anything.

Terry_Cat 02-26-2009 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by bmanafort (Post 2803135)
I read or was told somewhere that the labor involved in the lack of rub rail was part of the issue.

interesting , thanks for the info guys

dreamer 02-26-2009 08:27 AM

good "reason".... i doubt it though

pm203 02-26-2009 08:56 AM

The rubrail was one of the big issues. Skip claimed it was an extra minimum 40 man hours to do this. It is very labor intensive and didn't fit into Skip's profit margin levels.

joefitness123 02-26-2009 09:47 AM

PM, figured it out, thats why the Glads hold there value well...thanks,:ernaehrung004:

Dredgeking 07-11-2009 09:04 AM

Did Cig sell the molds to anyone or are they just keeping them around? The Gladiator is the sexiest Cig around.

lowblue320 07-11-2009 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by Dredgeking (Post 2907791)
Did Cig sell the molds to anyone or are they just keeping them around? The Gladiator is the sexiest Cig around.

I believe the same, the last Gladiator is bad asz.

MrMagloo 07-16-2009 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2809013)
The rubrail was one of the big issues. Skip claimed it was an extra minimum 40 man hours to do this. It is very labor intensive and didn't fit into Skip's profit margin levels.

Simple - Charge more! Problem solved! :ernaehrung004:

Von Bongo 07-16-2009 04:57 PM

Wow, 40 man hours. That's lets see....at $20 an hour that's $800.00 more to build the gladiator.

Doesn't add up to a discontinued model.

Maybe 400 man hours? Still the things listed near what a top gun was and you don't have the materials and time spent on the cabin.

Obviously they didn't want to make it for some reason.

Schweeng 07-16-2009 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by Von Bongo (Post 2911791)
Wow, 40 man hours. That's lets see....at $20 an hour that's $800.00 more to build the gladiator.

Doesn't add up to a discontinued model.

Maybe 400 man hours? Still the things listed near what a top gun was and you don't have the materials and time spent on the cabin.

Obviously they didn't want to make it for some reason.

Was going to post the same thing...
Ok Tank - get us the real reason. :)

pm203 07-16-2009 06:55 PM

Maybe I was a little light on the hours. If you ask anyone in the industry, they will tell you that the no rubrail look is very labor intensive. Much harder than to say adding a cabin. There is a ton of work to do it right. I think the profit margin just wasn't there. For what Skip would have to charge, it didn't make good business sense. Also, I think the demand for a no-cabin sit down boat is a small market these days. Skip will still build one, but it won't be cheap.

jmackin 07-18-2009 08:29 AM

I think they just re-did the bottoms before they discontinued them. Could it also be a safety/liability concern? :flag:

2112 07-18-2009 12:59 PM

I have heard of a bottom redesign somewhere between the 03' and 04' models, is that what you mean?
.

jmackin 07-18-2009 02:04 PM

i thought it was more like 05-06

pm203 07-20-2009 09:02 PM

Bottom re-do was on the 03's and up. As far as liability concerns? Don't be ridiculous. The demise of the Gladiator is due to $$ and profit margins coupled with demand.

twin screws 07-22-2009 08:07 PM

I heard it was because Skip had to pay someone for every Gladiator that was built. I forgot whom the gentleman was but that is good inside info. Anyone know whom that may be? I t was whom ever designed the Gladiator. Surely I'm not the only one whom was told that. Right Greek?

2112 07-22-2009 10:00 PM

Michael Peters?
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tblrklakemo 07-23-2009 09:52 AM


Originally Posted by Von Bongo (Post 2911791)
Wow, 40 man hours. That's lets see....at $20 an hour that's $800.00 more to build the gladiator.

Doesn't add up to a discontinued model.

Maybe 400 man hours? Still the things listed near what a top gun was and you don't have the materials and time spent on the cabin.

Obviously they didn't want to make it for some reason.

$20 an hr....thats way too cheap. I bet they charge $75-100 an hr.

Wild 07-23-2009 10:24 AM

even at 100 per hr thats only $4000 extra, and no cabin should also help the price, oh well its gone anyway

I bet if you really want one they will me you one, especially in this economy

pm203 07-23-2009 11:04 AM

All I can say, is that when the most experienced, knowledgeable Cigarette guy on the planet wanted to build his own personal ride, he built a Gladiator.


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