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Sydwayz 04-02-2009 12:42 PM

Cigarettes with Whipples...
 
My own curiosity:

Modern Cigarette 38 TG/TS (CG cabin) with 525s, Whipples, and BRAVO derivative drives; how fast?

Has anyone done the same with a 39TG?

I know all about 700s/NXTs. I am just curious if the above setup has ever been done.

jeff1000man 04-02-2009 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2834608)
My own curiosity:

Modern Cigarette 38 TG/TS (CG cabin) with 525s, Whipples, and BRAVO derivative drives; how fast?

Has anyone done the same with a 39TG?

I know all about 700s/NXTs. I am just curious if the above setup has ever been done.

The whippled 525 with bravos is the same thing as the 700/NXT on paper.

Don't know about reliability, longevity etc.

Sydwayz 04-02-2009 01:34 PM

Yep, paper is one thing, but the shape of the drives/bullets, weight of the transmissions, and overall setup of the boat is WAY different.

That's why I asked specifically about the Whipple/525/B1"x" setup.


BTW... "x" refers to variable, not the Bravo1X drive.

jeff1000man 04-02-2009 01:35 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2834643)
Yep, paper is one thing, but the shape of the drives/bullets, weight of the transmissions, and overall setup of the boat is WAY different.

That's why I asked specifically about the Whipple/525/B1"x" setup.


BTW... "x" refers to variable, not the Bravo1X drive.

"x" MEANING XR, maybe a standoff box, maybe some other version etc?

jeff1000man 04-02-2009 01:38 PM

I am with you, I was just saying I have seend the 525's with whipples make around 690+- so on paper it is the same.

Curious to see what else is said here also

Sydwayz 04-02-2009 01:43 PM

ITS, short stagger, XR, Teague, BMAX, Imco, whatever...

Any Bravo derivative setup.

dreamer 04-02-2009 02:04 PM

think some side by side boats went 102

dreamer 04-02-2009 02:04 PM

have they done a 700 nxt side by side? thats a good question

offshoredrillin 04-02-2009 02:16 PM

if a tiger with 575's its and teague xrs does 86, I'm sure the TG would be low to mid 90's depending on the whipple, the 5.0 or the 3.3.

5.0 would be mid to upper 90's and the 3.3 would be low to mid. the only short stagger boats are the older ones like fat boy. It would prob be side by side.

jeff1000man 04-02-2009 02:24 PM

I rode in a new 39' hustler with the 700's and NXT's that showed 104 on the GPS.

How does it compare to the 39' TG? I have seen a lot of those advertised rigged with that package.

Smitty 04-02-2009 07:37 PM

A 525 with a 3.3 liter Whipple is gonna make at least 700 hp.

My guess is a T/S Gun should be close to 100 with shorties and no boxes. Throw boxes on it and maybe 100+.

Isn't there a guy selling a T/S in the classifieds with Vortechs claiming 100 mph??

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o26220-en.html

Croozin2 04-03-2009 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by dreamer (Post 2834660)
think some side by side boats went 102

Phil had a side by side TG with either 650 or 675 Zuls that went 102. They were working on getting more air to the engine compartment and thought there still might be one or two mph left in it.

ETA: I do remember this boat had the custom extension boxes that Phil had built. If I remember correctly it was ITS that he extended.

STRAIGHTPRIORITY 04-03-2009 08:13 AM

allen smith has a ts with that setup roughly 690 or so if i remember. i know it has bravos but i dont know if it has boxes or shortys. i think he was 98 or so couldnt break 100. if i remember correctly.

ktron 04-03-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Croozin2 (Post 2835205)
Phil had a side by side TG with either 650 or 675 Zuls that went 102. They were working on getting more air to the engine compartment and thought there still might be one or two mph left in it.

ETA: I do remember this boat had the custom extension boxes that Phil had built. If I remember correctly it was ITS that he extended.

The boat had 675 Zuls and Phil did a 5" extension in addition to the ITS to make a full 12" setback. Philly said the boat was very fast!

Croozin2 04-03-2009 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by ktron (Post 2835382)
The boat had 675 Zuls and Phil did a 5" extension in addition to the ITS to make a full 12" setback. Philly said the boat was very fast!

You da man, Ktron! Yeah, I wanted to take a little ride in it while we were there but he and Richie were in the middle of testing and we were on a tight travel schedule. Sweet boat! Good pic of the custom ITS.

aTX427 04-05-2009 10:23 PM

Sounds like a drive breaker. Go with the NXT's if you can.


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