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jeff1000man 04-09-2009 09:23 AM

Honest Thoughts
 
I was seriously talking to Tres on this one about 2 weeks ago. Even talked to Potter perf. who has the busted engine. Thought this might be a deal so I sent a contract. Another boat that I wanted a lot worse came up, so I apologetically dropped this one. The boat I wanted, someone bought out from under me while I was in financing, so now I am back looking again.

Knowing it needs a lot of engine work, is this a value with 4 really nice TS boats under 150K that are growing grass under them.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o28551-en.html

FASTTIMES 04-09-2009 09:28 AM

YOU must have thought it was a value if you had a contract on it? ? Thats what counts!

jeff1000man 04-09-2009 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by FASTTIMES (Post 2839821)
YOU must have thought it was a value if you had a contract on it? ? Thats what counts!

That is what I keep telling myself.

The only justification is that the payment will be smaller, but you will have to dump the cash to get it in the water and on a trailer, but on the other boats you have a bigger payment with less cash up front.

With this boat, after you get it put together though, it would be like new. And really be a solid boat since it is the old hull.

Stormrider 04-09-2009 10:20 AM

I like that boat.
Add, 30-40k in some real power and you'll be tearing it up.
What? Those newer TS's w/525s + bravos? Comparing big custom power and 3a's to 525s and Bravos? Those engines will be used too.
Plus, i like the older interior much better(if you want a cabin).

BLee 04-09-2009 10:26 AM

That's Cash Bar's old boat. It's a real nice straight bottom.

lucky strike 04-09-2009 10:43 AM

Cash Bars was a 1996 with Bravos on boxes.

RunninHotRacing163.1 04-09-2009 11:00 AM

Quit D!KIN around and just BUY IT:D

jeff1000man 04-09-2009 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by RunninHotRacing158 (Post 2839897)
Quit D!KIN around and just BUY IT:D

Quit selling down the drug stock so I can have some money left. :grinser010:

BraceYourself 04-09-2009 12:40 PM

I would say if your buying a boat and thinking resale go with a ts. If you like the boat then by all means buy it. Any way you look at it these boats just seem to suck more money out of you then you ever think. So most importantly buy what you like and don't worry about the resale.

Cash Bar 04-09-2009 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 2839871)
That's Cash Bar's old boat. It's a real nice straight bottom.

That is a really close copy. Everytime I see it my heart hurts.

I miss that thing everyday. For that mobey or close it would be a strong boat to buy and hold onto. :cool:

Quinlan 04-09-2009 12:47 PM

Any way you look at it these boats just seem to suck more money out of you then you ever think.

That is the BEST advise given!

Be prepared to shell it out and not worry about what you WILL have to pay for next, because there is always something else needed!!!!

Quinlan

Stormrider 04-09-2009 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by oklaoutlaw (Post 2839971)
Any way you look at it these boats just seem to suck more money out of you then you ever think.

That is the BEST advise given!

Be prepared to shell it out and not worry about what you WILL have to pay for next, because there is always something else needed!!!!

Quinlan


Originally Posted by BraceYourself (Post 2839958)
So most importantly buy what you like and don't worry about the resale.

NO, i think this is the BEST advice given!

BLee 04-09-2009 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by lucky strike (Post 2839885)
Cash Bars was a 1996 with Bravos on boxes.



Originally Posted by Cash Bar (Post 2839970)
That is a really close copy. Everytime I see it my heart hurts.

I miss that thing everyday. For that mobey or close it would be a strong boat to buy and hold onto. :cool:


Ahhh, my mistake! Looking again, I remember yours having a newer layout & gauges. You'll get another one! :ernaehrung004:

lucky strike 04-09-2009 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by oklaoutlaw (Post 2839971)
Any way you look at it these boats just seem to suck more money out of you then you ever think

How true ! Been there done that more than once.

When you think you made a great buy & you want it to stay a great buy.

DON'T PUT IT IN THE WATER !

jmeng 04-09-2009 02:12 PM

Everyone is different but I just can't see putting over 100K into a flat bottom when there are TS Gun's out there for a little more. But you're the only one that you have to make happy. If the boat really call's to you then do it.

seafordguy 04-09-2009 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by jmeng (Post 2840037)
Everyone is different but I just can't see putting over 100K into a flat bottom when there are TS Gun's out there for a little more. But you're the only one that you have to make happy. If the boat really call's to you then do it.

Agreed - To me, if the cabin is really important to you, that that TG that Tres has for sale would certainly make for a great boat, if the cabin isn't important to you go with the T/S so you get the efficiency, resale, value, performance, etc.....

jeff1000man 04-09-2009 02:49 PM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 2840045)
Agreed - To me, if the cabin is really important to you, that that TG that Tres has for sale would certainly make for a great boat, if the cabin isn't important to you go with the T/S so you get the efficiency, resale, value, performance, etc.....

The reason I like it is because it has big power and drives, but on the other hand, it is antiquated technology.

I love the transmission drives though. THey are so smooth when you are shifting, and they just don't break very often once they are put together correctly.

Stormrider 04-09-2009 02:50 PM

Jeff, are you a modern twin step kind of guy???

jeff1000man 04-09-2009 02:54 PM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2840060)
Jeff, are you a modern twin step kind of guy???

I am not sure. I like the speed of them, but I still like that solid conventional feel.

The TS boats also are a lot better on fuel etc. overall.

tanner 04-09-2009 03:15 PM

I redid a 98 flat bottom.... it was a mistake. The old hulls will always drop in value at a faster rate than the twin stes. Also when you go to resale, you will have a bigger audience wit hthe twin step. ican't speak for everyone, but my opinion is buy the newer twin step if you can and make small changes to fit your style and enjoy the boat. natures habit is you will try and make the flat bottom a twin step with all the new goodies, and that will cost morethan a twin step as is today...

jeff1000man 04-09-2009 03:23 PM

Really I am a cat hull guy, with the insurance budget of a V-hull.

That Motion that was just listed is very tempting.

But this thread is going exactly the way I thought it would. You just cn't justify the pricing on a conventional hull unless it is just something that you really WANT to do.

I was looking at it from a deal standpoint, but it just won't end up being a deal in the long run I think.

If it was sitting on a trailer, it might change things a little, but even then maybe not much.

BraceYourself 04-09-2009 03:24 PM

[QUOTE=jeff1000man;2840062]I am not sure. I like the speed of them, but I still like that solid conventional feel.



My twin step boats I've owned compared to flat bottoms were actually a better feel. Re entry was always better and the balance was better.


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