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BLee 05-04-2009 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 2857475)
I still wouldn't rule it out though.

:ernaehrung004:


Every boat and situation is different.

omerta one 05-04-2009 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by skmulligan (Post 2858283)
At the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask a question that I should of asked along time ago.

I've been noticing several comments lately about how twin stepped boats handle differently.

I've ran performance boats most of my life with never an issue. Just last fall I purchase an '01 Playboy T/S, jumped in and took off.

Can someone explain the handling differences and what you should not do with a T/S?

Thanks.

Take the Tres Martin class;

In the meantime do not turn the boat at speed until you learn how to set it up first.

Jassman 05-04-2009 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Tazz (Post 2857459)
This is very sad. Anybody that owns a twin step cig should really beware of turns. You can't blame boating inexperience on this one.



The twin step is far better than the single step 38TG I had..I wish there was more info we could find out.

skmulligan 05-04-2009 03:13 PM

I've heard a lot of good things about the school and will probably attend at some point.

Till then, can someone point me in the right direction about trim and tab settings? I had heard at some point not to come off the throttle into a turn.?.?

I saw the video of the Cig. in Europe that lost control and wound up on a jetty at what appeared to be relatively low speeds.

Any comments would be helpful.

maxonmike 05-04-2009 08:25 PM

Absolutely a VERY sad tragic story.... BUT.... The Driver must have done something very wrong to roll that boat... To your question "skmulligan"... TS Cigs are very throttle and drive position sensitive... I would highly recommend that before you turn your boat tuck the drives all the way down and moderately power thru the turn... The Boat will be much more stable and predictable. Additionally the boat will track much better.... Just my 2 cents....

WMF 05-04-2009 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by maxonmike (Post 2858904)
Absolutely a VERY sad tragic story.... BUT.... The Driver must have done something very wrong to roll that boat... To your question "skmulligan"... TS Cigs are very throttle and drive position sensitive... I would highly recommend that before you turn your boat tuck the drives all the way down and moderately power thru the turn... The Boat will be much more stable and predictable. Additionally the boat will track much better.... Just my 2 cents....

On a stepped hull boat you never tuck the drive's all the way in a turn!!! It will cause the boat to spin out:drink:

TexomaPowerboater 05-04-2009 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by maxonmike (Post 2858904)
Absolutely a VERY sad tragic story.... BUT.... The Driver must have done something very wrong to roll that boat... .

Not so much, a simple malfuntion of the trim tabs or drive trim could have been responsible. Or you could also experience a engine malfuntion while turning at speed (i.e. slowing down). Thats why I don't care for steps - you really got to know what your doing AND hope that all your chit is working.

maxonmike 05-04-2009 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by WMF (Post 2858923)
On a stepped hull boat you never tuck the drive's all the way in a turn!!! It will cause the boat to spin out:drink:

Wrong.... Check with Tres..... And yea... Could have had a malfunction.... Maybe....

Marginmn 05-04-2009 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by maxonmike (Post 2858904)
Absolutely a VERY sad tragic story.... BUT.... The Driver must have done something very wrong to roll that boat... To your question "skmulligan"... TS Cigs are very throttle and drive position sensitive... I would highly recommend that before you turn your boat tuck the drives all the way down and moderately power thru the turn... The Boat will be much more stable and predictable. Additionally the boat will track much better.... Just my 2 cents....



:eek: As WMF pointed out, you DO NOT want to tuck your drives in when turning a stepped bottom boat. Trim out to neutral or better and have your tabs at neutral - don't cut the power when turning, and don't turn it hard or at high speed.

rockstrmkr 05-04-2009 10:03 PM

The German article says nothing about possible driver error and instead claims a "rudder malfunction". I'm assuming they mean a tab malfunction,
The article also says that authorities are still investigating.


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