Cigarette Accident - famous race driver dead
 

On April 9 famous class 1 race driver Jose Corti got killed.
Corti was also boat dealer in Monaco.
During a testride in a 30 ft. Cigarette on an Italian Lake with three customers all 4 people got thrown out of the boat during a turn. Only one survived
Corti was a very expiriennced driver who took part in several class 1 baot races.

This is third accident of a Cigarette in Europe in the last twelve month- first where people got killed.

http://www.worldofpowerboats.com/archive/?ID=104

http://www.my-sci.com/Powerboat,Clas...er_Bootsunfall


accident on River Rhine Germany 2008
38 Top Gun Twin 575 SCI

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...r-2005-tg.html

accident on River Schelde Belgium 2008
38 Top Gun Twin 700 SCI

http://www.atv.be/v3/newsdetail.aspx?mid=2&id=9668

Sad....

very sad to hear!! I wonder could this be the boat??

Sad. RIP

Man, that IS sad. I wonder how hard he was running that little boat to get out of shape?

sad

I hate hearing news like this... what caused them to get thrown out when they turned??? how was the water conditions and speed?

This is very sad. Anybody that owns a twin step cig should really beware of turns. You can't blame boating inexperience on this one.

I still wouldn't rule it out though.

At the risk of sounding stupid, I'm going to ask a question that I should of asked along time ago.

I've been noticing several comments lately about how twin stepped boats handle differently.

I've ran performance boats most of my life with never an issue. Just last fall I purchase an '01 Playboy T/S, jumped in and took off.

Can someone explain the handling differences and what you should not do with a T/S?

Thanks.

:ernaehrung004:


Every boat and situation is different.

Take the Tres Martin class;

In the meantime do not turn the boat at speed until you learn how to set it up first.

The twin step is far better than the single step 38TG I had..I wish there was more info we could find out.

I've heard a lot of good things about the school and will probably attend at some point.

Till then, can someone point me in the right direction about trim and tab settings? I had heard at some point not to come off the throttle into a turn.?.?

I saw the video of the Cig. in Europe that lost control and wound up on a jetty at what appeared to be relatively low speeds.

Any comments would be helpful.

Absolutely a VERY sad tragic story.... BUT.... The Driver must have done something very wrong to roll that boat... To your question "skmulligan"... TS Cigs are very throttle and drive position sensitive... I would highly recommend that before you turn your boat tuck the drives all the way down and moderately power thru the turn... The Boat will be much more stable and predictable. Additionally the boat will track much better.... Just my 2 cents....

On a stepped hull boat you never tuck the drive's all the way in a turn!!! It will cause the boat to spin out:drink:

Not so much, a simple malfuntion of the trim tabs or drive trim could have been responsible. Or you could also experience a engine malfuntion while turning at speed (i.e. slowing down). Thats why I don't care for steps - you really got to know what your doing AND hope that all your chit is working.

Wrong.... Check with Tres..... And yea... Could have had a malfunction.... Maybe....

:eek: As WMF pointed out, you DO NOT want to tuck your drives in when turning a stepped bottom boat. Trim out to neutral or better and have your tabs at neutral - don't cut the power when turning, and don't turn it hard or at high speed.

The German article says nothing about possible driver error and instead claims a "rudder malfunction". I'm assuming they mean a tab malfunction,
The article also says that authorities are still investigating.

+3 :rolleyes:

Thanks for the point of views.

The folks that rolled the boat in Germany did not appear to be going that fast (of course as pointed out, we may not know all the facts yet). But that situation brought some up some concerns.

I'm not planning on pushing the boat till I've had some "proper training." But from what I'm hearing you do not necessarily have to be "pushing it" to roll.

Any thoughts?

+4

I've taken Tres' course, and had a fast 38 Twin Step for years. You never tuck the drives on a TS all the way in for a turn, ever.

100% not trying to be rude or debate you, but that will get someone hurt.

skmulligan: there are MANY threads discussing the proper way to drive a TS already on OSO. do a search please, since we have all added our points TONS of times before. One advantage you have with your new 35TS, is without the notch in the rear of the transom, the boat doesn't get as much cavitation in the turns as the bigger boats. This will give you SOME leverage.

Absolutely NOT!!!

Drives and tabs level before a turn...maintain throttle/speed.

The idea is to keep the bow up and the stern down in the water. If you trim the drives in and/or deaccelerate the bow will drop, the stern will lift and you will get tossed.

Thanks guys.

Take the class. I am the teacher. I come to you. Its not worth losing your life or the boat over getting around to taking the class. Many say, I will take your course soon, Then I find they later flipped the boat. 352 620 -8737

Never tuck the drives. Also practice at slower speeds turning a TS boat. You can easily feel the difference in drive position vs handeling.
Just feels right to trim out, tucked in you feel the uncertainity the boat has.

Listen to the man...take the class.

What he said.

Worth every penny.

I am getting ready to take the course in June!! anyone in the MD, NJ, DE, PA area want to take it with me? maybe if we get enuff people we can get a discount:ernaehrung004:

We have a class coming up in Late May or June 20-21 in MD. I will post the final date and location as soon as it is confirmed.

Boat school opportunity in Europe. I am leaving for Finland the First week of August and will have time for one class anywhere in Europe August 7th-9th.

Brad

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