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jeff1000man 06-20-2009 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Cig35Mistress (Post 2892859)
I don't know how the laws read, I would imagine each state is different. I would imagine if the buyer strips the boat with full knowledge that it is being repossessed, and for the purposes of personal gain and/or to strengthen his hand when placing a straw man in to repurchase the boat, he's more than likely guilty of fraud. I would think it also depends on how the loan documents and the UCC lien read.

I was told that here in TX, that the boat is liened running and with rigging, engines drives etc.. THat when the boat is not reposesed by the lender with all of those parts, it is the same as theft.

Cig35Mistress 06-20-2009 12:45 PM

I don't know if that is absolutely true, I think legally it would come down to the exact language in the loan docs and the UCC lien recording. For example, if the loan docs or lien specified that the hull including its engine, all of its rigging, accessories, etc. (and listed each serial number) were to be included as security - or whether it just states the year, make, model and hull number. The real problem for the previous owner would be if he knowingly and willfully intended to criminally defraud the finance company. He's going to be civilly liable for the loan amount regardless.

A comparable example would be with a home, a contract for sale and purchase does not nor does a mortgage doesn't include appliances, stereo speaker systems, decorative lighting, cabinet handles, etc. - all the things people are removing from houses going into foreclosure. Those items are deemed personal property of the owner, not fixtures of the home. It all comes down to the fine print and intent.

GatorDave 06-23-2009 02:24 PM

Bidding has ended. Say's it sold for $30,200. Good luck to the new owner in getting it back on the water:drink:

Von Bongo 06-23-2009 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by GatorDave (Post 2895244)
Bidding has ended. Say's it sold for $30,200. Good luck to the new owner in getting it back on the water:drink:

Probably was the old owner:evilb:

rlj676 06-23-2009 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by Von Bongo (Post 2895278)
Probably was the old owner:evilb:

This is the type of **** that makes Cigarette so hard to finance!


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